Democrats and temper tantrums

[stormchazer]

wx247..:) I hear ya... this game has been going on back and forth. The Republicans blocked some Clinton Nominees by refusing to process nominations. The Dems are using the Fillibuster now to block nominees. :):) Some Dems screamed racism then and some Republicans are screaming racism now. :):)

Difference then was it was based on a majority vote. The Dems did not have the votes to get them out of the committee. The Republicans voted it done in committee which I find to be at issue with also. The Democrats should have done the same thing the Republicans are doing now. Present it to the people and apply pressure to the Republicans. The nominees should have had their day on the Senate floor. Remember that 2 wrongs do not make right...only 3 lefts do.

[ameriwx2003]

Remember that 2 wrongs do not make right...only 3 lefts do

LMAO....

I see your point but it was just a matter of time until a fillibuster was tried in this way. Its there to be used:):) the fillibuster is like a minority veto I will admit. It will also be interesting to see if the nuclear option is used to overcome this:):):)

Mike

[stormchazer]

Remember that 2 wrongs do not make right...only 3 lefts do

LMAO....

I see your point but it was just a matter of time until a fillibuster was tried in this way. Its there to be used:):) the fillibuster is like a minority veto I will admit. It will also be interesting to see if the nuclear option is used to overcome this:):):)

Yeah and my fear is it will be used to stop a Prez from appointing an Atty. General...or Sec of State. The Rep. better not try it or I amy become a Libertarian. They are the only ones further right then Pat Buchanan.

[Stephanie]

Here's another article on prior filibusters by GOP;

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200305/050903.html

This one is regarding the filibuster held by the GOP for campaign finance reform;

http://www.house.gov/meehan/pc021402NYT.html

[stormchazer]

Here's another article on prior filibusters by GOP;

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200305/050903.html

This one is regarding the filibuster held by the GOP for campaign finance reform;

http://www.house.gov/meehan/pc021402NYT.html

Wow...that some objective sources you got there. Two Democrats....hmm....I take their words as being the foundation of truth....yeah...okay.

This is kind of like referring to Mien Kampf as the reason Hitler was right.

[ameriwx2003]

LOL.. well Storm the message that started all this tells people to go to their website that happens to be the National Republican Senatoral Commitee. I am sure you won;t agree but that is hardly an objective source:):):):)

[Stephanie]

LOL.. well Storm the message that started all this tells people to go to their website that happens to be the National Republican Senatoral Commitee. I am sure you won;t agree but that is hardly an objective source:):):):)

Thanks Ameriwx!

Storm - no matter who posts what from whatever source, they'll be slammed. Regardless of that, it still happened and my point was that it occurs on both sides.

[Lindaloo]

Wrong!!

The Dems do not want those nominees because they will make their decisions based on the constitution. That is why we have no prayers in school and anything Under God is thrown out the window.

blizzard... all 4 are white. The Dems play the race card by calling them racist judges. Typical.

We need to take back our courts that follow the Constitution!! End of story!

[blizzard]

Thanks for that info Lindaloo, and thanks for clarifying you post for me.

[Lindaloo]

You are welcome as always blizzard.

[ameriwx2003]

Wrong!!

The Dems do not want those nominees because they will make their decisions based on the constitution.

The Dems are holding up these 4 nominees because they are worried they will put there personal preferences above the law not because they are worried they will base their decisions on the constitution:):):):). Its a worry that both Republican and Democrats have had with some of each others choices in the past and its a worry both sides will have with some of each others nominees in the future IMHO:):):)

Mike

[Stephanie]

Wrong!!

The Dems do not want those nominees because they will make their decisions based on the constitution.

The Dems are holding up these 4 nominees because they are worried they will put there personal preferences above the law not because they are worried they will base their decisions on the constitution:):):):). Its a worry that both Republican and Democrtas have had with some of each others choices in the past and this worry will continue in the future IMHO:):):)

Mike

Yep - until BOTH SIDES stop doing this, then nothing will be accomplished. The way I see it, it will only get worse.

[Lindaloo]

Are you talking about their morals? Well, all I can say is so be it. Good for them.

[Stephanie]

Are you talking about their morals? Well, all I can say is so be it. Good for them.

Who's the question for? :-?

[Lindaloo]

Oh Ameriwx. LOL!!! You can answer it if ya wanna. hehe.

[ameriwx2003]

Stephanie.. I agree this is a problem both sides have:):).. what worries me about all this is the Republicans may use the Nuclear option to break the Filibusters and this may lead to a tit for a tat retaliation between the 2 parties and this will spread and bills will get stalled and nothing will get accomplished

[Stephanie]

Oh, okay. I say then good for them on both sides!

[GalvestonDuck]

Let's not forget the Texas Democrat's temper tantrum, when they ran away out of state (twice!) to avoid the redistricting issue.

And, may I add that the 60-vote rule was laid out by Democrats in the last session after the 2000 election, knowing that the GOP would be unable to fill enough seats in the Senate to reinstitute more equitable rules (51%)...a partisan ruling, NOT Constitutional at all, but at the pleasure of the majority party AT THAT TIME.

So, why was it OK for the Republicans to re-district the state to give them the numbers advantage in Texas, but its not OK for the Dems to change the number of votes needed to break a filibuster. Each party, when they are in a majority tries to change things to the way that benefits their party. But it seems that it is wrong when the Dems do it, but perfectly fine when the GOP does it. I don't get it. Just a reminder, I am of no party affiliation (Independent), I just don't understand the thinking of some people. Doesn't seem to be much logic at all. If someone can explain this to me better, I am all ears.

I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with redistricting the state. But the Dems needed to buck up, be brave, and stick around for the vote, rather than running away.

[stormchazer]

LOL.. well Storm the message that started all this tells people to go to their website that happens to be the National Republican Senatoral Commitee. I am sure you won;t agree but that is hardly an objective source:):):):)

No..I do agree. But I haven't posted anything from the RNC. That message is the reason for the debate, not the answer to it.

[rainstorm]

Let's not forget the Texas Democrat's temper tantrum, when they ran away out of state (twice!) to avoid the redistricting issue.

That in my opinion is more serious than what is happening in the Senate. And if I hear that Dems are racist one more time I am going to scream.

they are the embodiment of affirmative action, quotas, and race baiting. they also want to keep poor black kids out of the private schools rich liberal kids go to.