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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
HWRF SIM IR as it crosses Cuba
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
HMON is NE of the 12z position as well but not as strong... yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
SouthFLTropics wrote:HWRF going beast mode, up to 130 knots and NE of the 12z position.
Can you post a link. tidbits is really slow and behind.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
The HWRF looks like it sped up vs 12z. faster moving storm. This will probably end up further east
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Windfield expands a bit after interacting with Cuba
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
114 hours
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
HWRF always looking to maximize conditions.eastcoastFL wrote:Windfield expands a bit after interacting with Cuba
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Almost all GFS ensembles were east of operational it looks like
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Huge east shift in 18z GEFS ensembles. Euro may be scoring the W here, we may know with certainty by tomorrow.
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
jlauderdal wrote:HWRF always looking to maximize conditions.eastcoastFL wrote:Windfield expands a bit after interacting with Cuba
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2022092218/hwrf_ref_98L_35.png
It sure does and this one is no exception. It’s going to town once it hits that warm pool in the gulf.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
eastcoastFL wrote:114 hours
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hwrf/2022092218/hwrf_mslp_wind_98L_39.png
YIKES!!! and that is AFTER going over Cuba and really hitting the gulf and its warm waters!?!?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
HWRF looks like it wobbles NW from 114 to 120 hours unless I’m not seeing this right?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
The HWRF has a lot of competing bands and partial eyewalls inside 98L after passing Jamaica’s latitude, and this doesn’t sort out until its Western Cuba landfall. I would lean toward the HWRF sniffing out some internal dynamics ahead of time, but it got all of Fiona’s EWRCs totally wrong — it missed the one the day after its DR landfall but forecasted one that should’ve started last night. Only time will tell what 98L’s core will end up like.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
Until a center develops, even while following the atmospheric forecasts now, the where and when is any models guess.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
18Z HWRF ends at 935mb
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
There are too many 'what ifs' out there with 98L right now that may not be factored with the models, these are my biggest ones.
What if the system refuses the northward turn until it's closer to the Western Caribbean and therefore dodges Cuba and the Yucatan completely by threading the needle?
What if the trough that is going to affect the system direction and/or strength was weaker or stronger than expected?
What if the storm unexpectedly explosively intensified in an area that was not expected to do so?
What if the system refuses the northward turn until it's closer to the Western Caribbean and therefore dodges Cuba and the Yucatan completely by threading the needle?
What if the trough that is going to affect the system direction and/or strength was weaker or stronger than expected?
What if the storm unexpectedly explosively intensified in an area that was not expected to do so?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models
'The center hasn't even formed yet' talk is quickly on its way to becoming null and void from here on out. In fact, this morning's scatterometer data (13Z-14Z) and satellite derived winds showed a pretty well-defined surface-850MB vorticity center that should have gone into the initialization of the 18Z model guidance, and I suspect it will be at least as well-defined in the upcoming 00Z runs. How well the model guidance initializes it is another matter, however we're at the point now where we have a decent LL center fix to work with.
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