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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1201 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:35 am

skyline385 wrote:06Z EPS zoomed in, there seems to be a group which goes through SFL and a group (from center relocation maybe) which is westwards.

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There is has not been any center relocation that i am aware off its some eddys rotating around the broader llc. But either way the mean in black is still across South Florida. We wait and watch

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#1202 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:35 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
skyline385 wrote:06Z EPS zoomed in, there seems to be a group which goes through SFL and a group (from center relocation maybe) which is westwards.

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Note that the stronger members are on the west side, and the euro is underdoing intensity. Current gfs depiction is not exactly unreasonable in either track or strength given the environment

Yea, the GFS has also been pretty good this year for track guidance. HWRF also shows a center relocation downshear soon and it has been very accurate in the short term range.


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1203 Postby cjrciadt » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:40 am

Blown Away wrote:
gatorcane wrote:12Z has shifted west closer to Tampa area:

https://i.postimg.cc/441wZHLy/09-L-tracks-12z.png


12z guidance going over the skinny part of Cuba, like Charley, which can allow for higher intensity before Florida landfall.

Correct, similar sized storm perhaps too. Unless it gains time exiting Cuba and stalls of FL :double:
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1204 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:42 am

Euro has been very consistent with the south of Ft Meyers idea now for many runs. It makes way more sense with the Tampa/ Sarasota strike such a rare climo entry location.

With that said the complete miss of FL peninsula is getting less likely by the minute.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1205 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:43 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Euro has been very consistent with the south of Ft Meyers idea now for many runs. It makes way more sense with the Tampa/ Sarasota strike such a rare climo entry location.

With that said the complete miss of FL peninsula is getting less likely by the minute.

It's literally a 50 mile location so any wobble here and there can make differences.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1206 Postby stpetenailbiter » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:44 am

SFLcane wrote:
skyline385 wrote:06Z EPS zoomed in, there seems to be a group which goes through SFL and a group (from center relocation maybe) which is westwards.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220923/91f69f92d33818a0a1458b665c8e8b66.jpg


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There is has not been any center relocation that i am aware off its some eddys rotating around the broader llc. But either way the mean in black is still across South Florida. We wait and watch

https://i.postimg.cc/Pr6rPPY3/epshh.jpg



I'm curious what effect the trough will have on shearing the system if it does follow some of the westernmost ensemble members. But those westernmost ensemble members are the strongest of any on the run. NHC mentions intensity likely capping as it approaches shore in their latest discussion. Can any mets lurking explain the disparity between the discussion and those Euro members bombing out?

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1207 Postby caneman » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:45 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Euro has been very consistent with the south of Ft Meyers idea now for many runs. It makes way more sense with the Tampa/ Sarasota strike such a rare climo entry location.

With that said the complete miss of FL peninsula is getting less likely by the minute.


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1208 Postby Blown Away » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:49 am

tolakram wrote:Trend with previous run
https://i.imgur.com/Rpc7wRP.gif

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00z Euro crossed over wider part of Cuba (00z Euro Image above) and 06z slight W adjustment may go over skinny part and allow for more strength on the other side of Cuba?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1209 Postby lsuhurricane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:08 am

12z ICON coming in a smidge further west compared to 6z. These small changes mean big impacts!
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1210 Postby TheHurricaneGod » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:08 am

If you look at the past several runs of the GFS and euro at the same timeframe, the EC trough has been trending stronger each run/further south. The ridge in the Atlantic has been trending ever so slightly weaker/eastward with some minor noise in between. I have a hunch this will result in models trending back east again, probably near the last minute, if this trend continues.
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#1211 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:16 am

Looks like NHC also sees a lot of strengthening as predicted by some of the westward ensemble members, upgraded to major before landfall now


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1212 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:22 am

EURO must be seeing ton of shear or dry air or shear in the Carib to be forecasting such a WEAK storm.............
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1213 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:34 am

lsuhurricane wrote:12z ICON coming in a smidge further west compared to 6z. These small changes mean big impacts!


Where are you seeing the ICON at. Seems tidbits is running behind.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1214 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:38 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:EURO must be seeing ton of shear or dry air or shear in the Carib to be forecasting such a WEAK storm.............

Euro has had a weak bias for years now, it’s not seeing anything new compared to the other models it’s just slow to develop


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1215 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:39 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:
lsuhurricane wrote:12z ICON coming in a smidge further west compared to 6z. These small changes mean big impacts!


Where are you seeing the ICON at. Seems tidbits is running behind.

weather.us has it


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1216 Postby lsuhurricane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:40 am

Where are you seeing the ICON at. Seems tidbits is running behind.


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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1217 Postby skyline385 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:41 am

ICON 12Z

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1218 Postby caneseddy » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:43 am

skyline385 wrote:ICON 12Z

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Looks like Naples landfall or just south of it as a major hurricane. SE Florida gets dirty side
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1219 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:45 am

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#1220 Postby IcyTundra » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:45 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:Euro has been very consistent with the south of Ft Meyers idea now for many runs. It makes way more sense with the Tampa/ Sarasota strike such a rare climo entry location.

With that said the complete miss of FL peninsula is getting less likely by the minute.


It all depends on the timing of the turn. As we saw with Charley small changes in timing can make a big difference in the track.
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