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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1021 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:25 pm

Iceresistance wrote:ADT Raw T is at 3.8 with a .7T constraint.

I think that Ian might be starting to RI or something, but we can only be sure when recon gets there!


Recon is already there, it hasn't aligned yet with the potent MLC, when it does that's when we are going to start seeing it intensify.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1022 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:31 pm

I definitely feel that at some point this will become a "Sail Drone-worthy" storm. Deploying a Sail Drone into Ian would actually make it the first time that one was deployed successfully into a hurricane not in the open Atlantic.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1023 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:38 pm

NDG wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:ADT Raw T is at 3.8 with a .7T constraint.

I think that Ian might be starting to RI or something, but we can only be sure when recon gets there!


Recon is already there, it hasn't aligned yet with the potent MLC, when it does that's when we are going to start seeing it intensify.

https://i.imgur.com/7HttWFu.jpg

We actually don’t know for certain whether or not Ian’s circulation is in the process of stacking, because recon hasn’t checked out the MLC yet. Hopefully they’ll go through it on their SE-NW pass.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1024 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:38 pm

skyline385 wrote:Webb has been saying how Ian sliding west reminds him of Ivan, well the similarities are definitely there

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Ivan.gif


I get what he's trying to say but there was a completely different set up, Ivan was kept steered to the west by a stronger Bermuda ridge in the western Atlantic Basin into the eastern US, there was no strong trough coming down the eastern US like currently being forecasted.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1025 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:38 pm

Ian's still a mess based on recon data, but you can tell from that sat pic above that Ian is busy getting organized. The potential in the NW Caribbean is explosive. I live in Sarasota and have family in Tampa and Safety Harbor, so I'm happy to see the westward trends today. I would prefer to study Ian from the fringes.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1026 Postby Evenstar » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:39 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:I definitely feel that at some point this will become a "Sail Drone-worthy" storm. Deploying a Sail Drone into Ian would actually make it the first time that one was deployed successfully into a hurricane not in the open Atlantic.


Hello! What’s a sail drone?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1027 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:40 pm

To make matters worse, ASCAT has missed this system, twice!
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1028 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:40 pm

Evenstar wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:I definitely feel that at some point this will become a "Sail Drone-worthy" storm. Deploying a Sail Drone into Ian would actually make it the first time that one was deployed successfully into a hurricane not in the open Atlantic.


Hello! What’s a sail drone?


A remotely controlled boat.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1029 Postby SouthernBreeze » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:40 pm

Evenstar wrote:
Category5Kaiju wrote:I definitely feel that at some point this will become a "Sail Drone-worthy" storm. Deploying a Sail Drone into Ian would actually make it the first time that one was deployed successfully into a hurricane not in the open Atlantic.


Hello! What’s a sail drone?

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1030 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:45 pm

I've yet to see any purely west winds thus far from the recon data. Almost like they are missing it to the left
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1031 Postby skyline385 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:53 pm

NDG wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Webb has been saying how Ian sliding west reminds him of Ivan, well the similarities are definitely there

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Ivan.gif


I get what he's trying to say but there was a completely different set up, Ivan was kept steered to the west by a stronger Bermuda ridge in the western Atlantic Basin into the eastern US, there was no strong trough coming down the eastern US like currently being forecasted.

https://i.imgur.com/H0viQx8.gif


I agree that the setup is slightly different but we do have a strong ridge steering it west

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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1032 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:53 pm

NDG wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Webb has been saying how Ian sliding west reminds him of Ivan, well the similarities are definitely there

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Ivan.gif


I get what he's trying to say but there was a completely different set up, Ivan was kept steered to the west by a stronger Bermuda ridge in the western Atlantic Basin into the eastern US, there was no strong trough coming down the eastern US like currently being forecasted.

https://i.imgur.com/H0viQx8.gif


Thanks for posting that. I was curious how the set ups compared. Completely different scenarios at the moment.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1033 Postby Kludge » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:53 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:I've yet to see any purely west winds thus far from the recon data. Almost like they are missing it to the left

Yeah that seems strange to me as well. Diminishing shear and very symmetric satellite presentation, but no west wind.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1034 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:58 pm

Kludge wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:I've yet to see any purely west winds thus far from the recon data. Almost like they are missing it to the left

Yeah that seems strange to me as well. Diminishing shear and very symmetric satellite presentation, but no west wind.

The last ob just came out and there is a wind shift and there was a west wind (2kts) followed by a wsw wind at 3kts...but that is down at a latitude near 12n (and a pressure 1008.8)
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1035 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:02 pm

They hit another mesovort or something down at 12.9N/75.7W. I think they’re looking too far SE of the actual LLC, which could be closer to the MLC by now, especially with that growing hot tower around 14.5N-15.5N
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1036 Postby toad strangler » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:03 pm

skyline385 wrote:
NDG wrote:
skyline385 wrote:Webb has been saying how Ian sliding west reminds him of Ivan, well the similarities are definitely there

https://s4.gifyu.com/images/Ivan.gif


I get what he's trying to say but there was a completely different set up, Ivan was kept steered to the west by a stronger Bermuda ridge in the western Atlantic Basin into the eastern US, there was no strong trough coming down the eastern US like currently being forecasted.

https://i.imgur.com/H0viQx8.gif


I agree that the setup is slightly different but we do have a strong ridge steering it west

https://i.imgur.com/tAS1x37.png



That ain’t the orientation of the ridge on the Euro.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1037 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:05 pm

aspen wrote:They hit another mesovort or something down at 12.9N/75.7W. I think they’re looking too far SE of the actual LLC, which could be closer to the MLC by now, especially with that growing hot tower around 14.5N-15.5N

Possibly, but it is the only distinct wind shift I have seen thus far.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1038 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:06 pm

I am thinking that they missed the center to the SW some at 15 north. I am not a MET though.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1039 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:08 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:I am thinking that they missed the center to the SW some at 15 north. I am not a MET though.

Yeah, that seems to be the one NHC is currently tracking
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ATL: IAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1040 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:10 pm

Hazy-look...Fist...


Oh boy...
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