ATL: IAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4661 Postby Rail Dawg » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:02 am

The NHC while awesome for hurricane track still has a lot to learn (like all of us) about intensity forecasting.

I’m calling Ian a Cat 5. Personal opinion based on experience.

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4662 Postby caneman » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:02 am

sbcc wrote:Posting for caneman - this is a pic of the water, or rather the lack of it, in his canal near Indian Rocks...

FYI, the code instruction I posted is not working, need to copy the BBCode box there, then put it in the IMG tags. Sorry!

[url]https://i.ibb.co/Jjjx732/20220928-091135.jpg [/url]


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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4663 Postby ThunderForce » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:03 am

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According to the SPC, Ian and its bands will allow for slight and enhanced severe weather today which includes tornadoes. They're saying that the south-central peninsula and the Space Coast in particular have the highest chance of seeing tornadoes, and that there is the possibility for them to be strong EF2+ ones.

Even if you're outside of Ian's hurricane-force winds, please be very careful if you're in one of Ian's rain bands. The storm was spitting out tornadoes left and right last night and it is possible that it may resume doing so later today.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4664 Postby TheHurricaneGod » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:03 am

Winds howling out there now. Just a few showers here on radar. Gusting to over 40 MPH at times
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4665 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:03 am

Last few radar frames appear to show the eastern eyewall about to touch Sanibel Island.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4666 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:03 am

The last time that Southern Florida was hit by a CAT 5 was Andrew at Miami in 1992 from the east from The Bahamas.

Here coming from the west? I don't think that has ever happened before.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4667 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:03 am

Prayers to everyone in its path. :flag:
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4668 Postby GCANE » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:04 am

Water receded about 200 yards Charlotte Harbor
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4669 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:04 am

ThunderForce wrote:https://i.imgur.com/l3RdO3u.gif
According to the SPC, Ian and its bands will allow for slight and enhanced severe weather today which includes tornadoes. They're saying that the south-central peninsula and the Space Coast in particular have the highest chance of seeing tornadoes, and that there is the possibility for them to be strong EF2+ ones.

Even if you're outside of Ian's hurricane-force winds, please be very careful if you're in one of Ian's rain bands. The storm was spitting out tornadoes left and right last night and it is possible that it may resume doing so later today.

Was just about to post that. 10% tornado areas in a TC aren't too common, so this is likely going to be a pretty big deal unfortunately.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4670 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:05 am

This is going to be Mexico Beach all over again except in a much higher populated area. This will devastate Florida's economy
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4671 Postby Blown Away » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:05 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4672 Postby sbcc » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:06 am

caneman wrote:
sbcc wrote:Posting for caneman - this is a pic of the water, or rather the lack of it, in his canal near Indian Rocks...

FYI, the code instruction I posted is not working, need to copy the BBCode box there, then put it in the IMG tags. Sorry!

https://i.ibb.co/Jjjx732/20220928-091135.jpg


Thank you.


Happy to help, when it settles down shoot me a PM and we can practice in the off topic section. :D

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4673 Postby WiscoWx02 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:06 am

Rail Dawg wrote:The NHC while awesome for hurricane track still has a lot to learn (like all of us) about intensity forecasting.

I’m calling Ian a Cat 5. Personal opinion based on experience.

Chuck


I agree, the NHC will very unlikely upgrade it though. Wouldn’t make a difference anyways, still going to be a catastrophic event.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4674 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:06 am

Iceresistance wrote:The last time that Southern Florida was hit by a CAT 5 was Andrew at Miami in 1992 from the east from The Bahamas.

Here coming from the west? I don't think that has ever happened before.


Andrew and Charley were relatively small compact storms. This is whole entirely different beast
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4675 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:06 am

After those 2 planes, when is the next recon if any?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4676 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:07 am

Teban54 wrote:Food for thought:

In its last 6 hours before the Cuba landfall, Ian intensified from 90 kts to officially 110 kts (+20 kts). Many people here speculated it might have been a low-end Cat 4 (115 kts) at landfall.

Ian is now 105 kts and still has 15 hours before landfall.

Ian intensified by 30 kts (105 -> 135) in the 8 hours following this comment made at 11pm last night.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4677 Postby Hurricane2022 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:09 am

This actual recon mission ended?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4678 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:10 am

Sanibel wrote:Gulf stream juice creates fully presented category 5 appearance...Slow grinding turn looks like it might be happening...National Hurricane Center says 18 foot surge possible...House is toast...

Sanibel (the user), I vividly remember when you said this might be the storm for Sanibel (the island), back when model runs and the NHC forecast were just shifting south and not even at the island yet. Unfortunately, that fear came true in the worst way possible.

Many prayers.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4679 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:12 am

Hurricane2022 wrote:This actual recon mission ended?

On TT is says it's finished but it looks like they turned around and started descending again, so maybe they decided to get one more pass. If so that's a massive W for them
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4680 Postby typhoonty » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:13 am

It was relayed to me that they are hesitant to upgrade to a 5 because the pressure is too high and they would rather use a blend the FL winds of the AF and NOAA. Eric Blake said they could go 135 or 140 kt

Ian is still intensifying but even if they don’t go cat 5 today it has far more evidence than Michael to support an upgrade to 5.

I live in Iona right on the Caloosahatchee and have accepted that I will probably lose everything except my life because I evacuated to Fort Lauderdale last night. My godmother though stayed in zone A and is in grave danger
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