ATL: IAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4821 Postby underthwx » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:25 am

If I may, I need to say to all of you, during this difficult, dangerous, and stressful time, that all of you here on 2K, many of you in harms way, are bringing forth vital, necessary information, to the masses that are afraid, or unaware of what needs to be done to remain safe, and when....so I tip my hat to all of you for your expertise and compassion. Thankyou for all you do.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4822 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:26 am

CDO cooling again, eye continues to clear and the eastern eyewall is looking better on radar. Not good at all
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4823 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:27 am

tropicwatch wrote:
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These are not 10m winds


I know they are not at the surface but surface winds should be increasing.

Yep, the velocity bin is not a depiction of the surface and shouldn’t be taken as such. Also need to watch for contamination, as bins that are adjacent to either a range folded pixel (RF with the inspector tool on RadarScope) or immediately adjacent to the blacked out pixels of the eye, can give falsely high readings. Not sure if that’s happening there or not, but there have been believable readings of >190mph, especially on the west side. Best to see if the reading can be corroborated by multiple other pixels of similar value, and watch if the aggregate of the wind field is increasing in intensity (which it has been)
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4824 Postby sbcc » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:30 am

cheezyWXguy wrote:
tropicwatch wrote:
MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
These are not 10m winds


I know they are not at the surface but surface winds should be increasing.

Yep, the velocity bin is not a depiction of the surface and shouldn’t be taken as such. Also need to watch for contamination, as bins that are adjacent to either a range folded pixel (RF with the inspector tool on RadarScope) or immediately adjacent to the blacked out pixels of the eye, can give falsely high readings. Not sure if that’s happening there or not, but there have been believable readings of >190mph, especially on the west side. Best to see if the reading can be corroborated by multiple other pixels of similar value, and watch if the aggregate of the wind field is increasing in intensity (which it has been)


Good basic explanation of range folding with examples: https://www.cleveland.com/weather/blog/2016/08/what_are_the_limitations_of_do.html
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4825 Postby kevin » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:30 am

Recon just left, a little less than 500 miles from Ian's center. Should be able to make it to Ian's core within 1.5 hours, might be just in time before Ian makes landfall and its eyewall starts weakening.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4826 Postby Tinman53 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:31 am

If you refuse an Evacuation Order (and, to be clear, all of the places facing these surges have Evacuation Orders), you forfeit the right to complain about anything.[/quote]


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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4827 Postby galaxy401 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:31 am

At the very least the hurricane chasers down there should be able to record the pressure at landfall if recon doesn't make it in time.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4828 Postby cane5 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:32 am

tolakram wrote:Eye is now almost west of Sanibel, surge seems to have stopped rising for the moment.

https://i.imgur.com/qAscuSS.gif


Let’s hope Sanibel can recover quickly what a great spot sad to see this :(
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4829 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:33 am

St. James City has reported a gust to 80 on Weather Underground

Highest on NWS is at Punta Gorda and Venice at 61 mph gusts

Lost the wind measurements at Naples.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4830 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:34 am

jasons2k wrote:The SW eyewall being stronger reminds me of Ike and how the upper dynamics enhanced that side.

Me too!! I was looking at that. We spent 6.5 hours in Ike's western eyewall!! NOT FUN! i hope that isn't a surprise for Floridians!!
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4831 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:35 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4832 Postby cane5 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am

vbhoutex wrote:
jasons2k wrote:The SW eyewall being stronger reminds me of Ike and how the upper dynamics enhanced that side.

Me too!! I was looking at that. We spent 6.5 hours in Ike's western eyewall!! NOT FUN! i hope that isn't a surprise for Floridians!!


When it comes to Hurricanes and your a South Floridian we’ve seen it all 8-)
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4833 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am

Flow has changed but water level still rising (mailbox)
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4834 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am

Recon needs to be very careful, the lightning inside the eyewall is something else. :eek:

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4835 Postby Hurricane2022 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:38 am

When the next recon will arrive on Ian?
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4836 Postby Fancy1001 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:39 am

Why do I have a bad feeling that Ian is peeking right now, and recon will only get there after it starts declining.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4837 Postby tolakram » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:41 am

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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4838 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:41 am



Still a little weaker in the SE quad but the eyewall is really looking the best it has on radar. Starting to fill in with yellows where it was once green.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4839 Postby Fancy1001 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:41 am

That plane needs to book it at the fastest safe pace.
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Re: ATL: IAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#4840 Postby dukeblue219 » Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:42 am

Fancy1001 wrote:Why do I have a bad feeling that Ian is peeking right now, and recon will only get there after it starts declining.


Fancy1001 wrote:That plane needs to book it at the fastest safe pace.


Does it matter? Let's hope the storm weakens right now before recon gets there. The plane can't stop the storm and it's too late for anyone to make preparations.
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