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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#721 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:12 pm

Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#722 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:15 pm

Ntxw wrote:Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?

That is what I thought when it was thundering and lightning outside as well last night!

The SOI index is more positive again sadly.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#723 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:19 pm

Ntxw wrote:Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?

Looks like more rain will fall for a while longer too. Bump up the totals and then another round Tuesday. If it is going to be this sticky and humid in December it better rain.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#724 Postby HockeyTx82 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:26 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:Here we go! It's Snow Miser vs Heat Miser on the models! And those two are really going at work!

https://youtu.be/3e1SQmt9WtQ


I'm mister 101F... I wouldn't get too excited about anything until if and when there is any cold air up north. There's none now.


Thank you for being a voice of reason as always. I'm with you on this one.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#725 Postby Itryatgolf » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:29 pm

Ntxw wrote:Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?


I just don't think it's going to be all that cold. Reason being and I understand the gfs has been upgraded recently and has been having amazing run to run inconsistencies, but typically its a cold biased model and for it not to show really cold air is concerning for a big cold blast. For anyone thinking of big major outbreaks like I've seen on Twitter, they going to be disappointed lol.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#726 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:40 pm

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Ntxw wrote:Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?


I just don't think it's going to be all that cold. Reason being and I understand the gfs has been upgraded recently and has been having amazing run to run inconsistencies, but typically its a cold biased model and for it not to show really cold air is concerning for a big cold blast. For anyone thinking of big major outbreaks like I've seen on Twitter, they going to be disappointed lol.


I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#727 Postby Itryatgolf » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:44 pm

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Ntxw wrote:Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?


I just don't think it's going to be all that cold. Reason being and I understand the gfs has been upgraded recently and has been having amazing run to run inconsistencies, but typically its a cold biased model and for it not to show really cold air is concerning for a big cold blast. For anyone thinking of big major outbreaks like I've seen on Twitter, they going to be disappointed lol.


I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.

I guess that's what models do when it's so far out. Hopefully we all get a decent winter event sooner or later this winter
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#728 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:46 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
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Itryatgolf wrote:
I just don't think it's going to be all that cold. Reason being and I understand the gfs has been upgraded recently and has been having amazing run to run inconsistencies, but typically its a cold biased model and for it not to show really cold air is concerning for a big cold blast. For anyone thinking of big major outbreaks like I've seen on Twitter, they going to be disappointed lol.


I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.

I guess that's what models do when it's so far out. Hopefully we all get a decent winter event sooner or later this winter


We'll have to see when it happens. Whether we get severe cold or not, I would be shocked if the southern plains comes out post Christmas without a snow event.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#729 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:47 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
I just don't think it's going to be all that cold. Reason being and I understand the gfs has been upgraded recently and has been having amazing run to run inconsistencies, but typically its a cold biased model and for it not to show really cold air is concerning for a big cold blast. For anyone thinking of big major outbreaks like I've seen on Twitter, they going to be disappointed lol.


I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.

I guess that's what models do when it's so far out. Hopefully we all get a decent winter event sooner or later this winter



Ummmm. The new GFS is NOT cold biased. It is extremely warm biased and that’s been talked about a bunch with long range forecasters recently.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#730 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:48 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.

I guess that's what models do when it's so far out. Hopefully we all get a decent winter event sooner or later this winter


We'll have to see when it happens. Whether we get severe cold or not, I would be shocked if the southern plains comes out post Christmas without a snow event.

That would be a big disappointment, all of this for nothing!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#731 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:48 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.

I guess that's what models do when it's so far out. Hopefully we all get a decent winter event sooner or later this winter



Ummmm. The new GFS is NOT cold biased. It is extremely warm biased and that’s been talked about a bunch with long range forecasters recently.

I think that Heat Miser had to do with something on the 'upgraded' GFS. :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#732 Postby Quixotic » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:49 pm

Just going to say that 09-10 was never super cold. Just cold enough with good ripples in the jet overhead.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#733 Postby Quixotic » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:51 pm

As others have stated, ridiculous cold almost always comes with suppression. 83-84 and 89-90 come to mind. Give me 20-30 degrees with a cold column and I’ll be happy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#734 Postby Iceresistance » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:52 pm

Today marks 1 year since the Quad-State Tornado Family, I can't believe it's already 1 year since this happened!

 https://twitter.com/bamwxcom/status/1601706137056817152


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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#735 Postby Itryatgolf » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:53 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
I think that's fine, everyone is entitled to their model of choice :wink:. Nothing is promised and nothing is given, we all just discuss the possibilities.

I guess that's what models do when it's so far out. Hopefully we all get a decent winter event sooner or later this winter



Ummmm. The new GFS is NOT cold biased. It is extremely warm biased and that’s been talked about a bunch with long range forecasters recently.


I guess I meant the old gfs, but definitely the new gfs has been bouncing around too much with not much accuracy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#736 Postby Itryatgolf » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:54 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Today marks 1 year since the Quad-State Tornado Family, I can't believe it's already 1 year since this happened!

https://twitter.com/bamwxcom/status/1601706137056817152?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I remember that because I was like 6 miles nw of all the action that night. It was pretty bad
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#737 Postby Itryatgolf » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:56 pm

Quixotic wrote:Just going to say that 09-10 was never super cold. Just cold enough with good ripples in the jet overhead.


Definitely consistent cold that winter. We got two winter events two weeks in a row I believe
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#738 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 10, 2022 7:59 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Also the thunder and lightning with this even behind cool air is impressive. Are we sure there's a Nina?


I just don't think it's going to be all that cold. Reason being and I understand the gfs has been upgraded recently and has been having amazing run to run inconsistencies, but typically its a cold biased model and for it not to show really cold air is concerning for a big cold blast. For anyone thinking of big major outbreaks like I've seen on Twitter, they going to be disappointed lol.


I really wouldn’t pay much attention to any operationals right now. Maybe in a week from now the operationals will start to pick up on the true cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#739 Postby Quixotic » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:02 pm

Itryatgolf wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Just going to say that 09-10 was never super cold. Just cold enough with good ripples in the jet overhead.


Definitely consistent cold that winter. We got tei winter events two weeks in a row I believe

Yep! It varied. Got the white Christmas. Sporadic dusting in January. Record snow in February. And a dusting that turned into a 7” snowfall IMBY in March. DFW had almost beat 77-78 but while I only got 10” in February, I jackpotted in March. Definitely had 20-25” that year. It was wonderful.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#740 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:38 pm

Quixotic wrote:
Itryatgolf wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Just going to say that 09-10 was never super cold. Just cold enough with good ripples in the jet overhead.


Definitely consistent cold that winter. We got tei winter events two weeks in a row I believe

Yep! It varied. Got the white Christmas. Sporadic dusting in January. Record snow in February. And a dusting that turned into a 7” snowfall IMBY in March. DFW had almost beat 77-78 but while I only got 10” in February, I jackpotted in March. Definitely had 20-25” that year. It was wonderful.


Good memories. Could also easily have been less than 5" though at DFW for the season. The footer bust was snow@33F nearly the whole event and March not even forecasted to be much, also extremely marginal. Only Christmas Eve was bonafide cold enough. The upper level systems provided much of their own cold.

2021 we could've scored 10-25" like the surrounding areas n/s/e/w...need a redux of that but maybe a bit less cold for better tracks.
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