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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1221 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:39 pm

Widespread negative wind chill values across the state on the latest Euro.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1222 Postby Portastorm » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:43 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:We're likely going to be seeing an extended period of time with temperatures below freezing across much of Texas around Christmas. Let's hope ERCOT is better prepared this time around. I've heard that they are, but I won't believe it until I see it. I definitely don't want to be without power for several days again with brutally cold temperatures. Not fun at all.


Agree 1000%! The February 2021 Snowpocalypse and not having water for a week (I was lucky to have power, ironically enough because I live near a water treatment plant) diminished my love of Arctic outbreaks into Texas. Sure hope the state's power grid holds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1223 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:43 pm

KFOR TV met Mike Morgan is on board in OKC. He posted this on Facebook a short while ago…

“OKLAHOMIE ALERT!!
Oklahoma Temps drop BELOW ZERO heading into Christmas. -20WCI will be a piece of FRUITCAKE. #okwx KFOR-TV 12.13.22”

Also posted this tweet yesterday…

 https://twitter.com/mikemorgankfor/status/1602381054580490244


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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1224 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:45 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:We're likely going to be seeing an extended period of time with temperatures below freezing across much of Texas around Christmas. Let's hope ERCOT is better prepared this time around. I've heard that they are, but I won't believe it until I see it. I definitely don't want to be without power for several days again with brutally cold temperatures. Not fun at all.


As someone who spent 4 days without power back then, yes, it was not fun. I’m skeptical about of the improvements as well, but we’ll see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1225 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:47 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:KFOR TV met Mike Morgan is on board in OKC. He posted this on Facebook a short while ago…

“OKLAHOMIE ALERT!!
Oklahoma Temps drop BELOW ZERO heading into Christmas. -20WCI will be a piece of FRUITCAKE. #okwx KFOR-TV 12.13.22”

Also posted this tweet yesterday…

https://twitter.com/mikemorgankfor/status/1602381054580490244?s=46&t=CmLOmti6Gt9x7A9pmYBiiQ

Almost thought this was a tweet from a parody account lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1226 Postby harp » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:50 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Yeah that Euro run is gonna get some heads turning.
How so?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1227 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:51 pm

From Ryan Maue a couple of hours ago…

 https://twitter.com/ryanmaue/status/1602710288607940610


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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1228 Postby Ntxw » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:52 pm

Will say, the IMBY details of course is always a tough sell beyond a few days. But this has not been a hard forecast to make. Some forecasters have seen this coming a month or two in advance, not the magnitude but that the pattern would shift to such an outcome of -EPO. -AO is a harder forecast but it eventually went along too.

We've come a long way from the days of believing an index when a model *shows* it happening but has no basis. Just like nowadays we gripe about model inconsistencies but we don't get as much fantasy snow runs as we used to, it's gotten better with better tools.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1229 Postby Texas Snow » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:52 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:We're likely going to be seeing an extended period of time with temperatures below freezing across much of Texas around Christmas. Let's hope ERCOT is better prepared this time around. I've heard that they are, but I won't believe it until I see it. I definitely don't want to be without power for several days again with brutally cold temperatures. Not fun at all.


As someone who spent 4 days without power back then, yes, it was not fun. I’m skeptical about of the improvements as well, but we’ll see.


I too spent 4 days without power or heat. I have myself made drastic improvements since then. I had natural gas but with no power the blower wouldn't blow to work with the furnace. Now my generator has a tie into the furnace so I can blow hot air through the whole house for the amount of electricity of a light bulb. That would have been nice in 2021. Also added over a foot of insulation to my attic and sealed all the doors and windows better.

Let's hope Ercot put more effort in than I did.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1230 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:53 pm

I've never seen such a massive area below zero in the USA. I'm going to start preps to my home this weekend if this keeps up :eek: .

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1231 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 2:59 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:I've never seen such a massive area below zero in the USA. I'm going to start preps to my home this weekend if this keeps up :eek: .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj4abcMWQAEBM0W?format=png&name=medium

It's December 1983 ALL OVER AGAIN on the 12z Euro! It's a literal Arctic Cannon!
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1232 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:01 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1233 Postby cstrunk » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:03 pm

There looks to be a tornado on the ground by US 259 and I-20 in Longview, TX right now.

*Edit - not yet confirmed but very strong rotation and may have been a CC drop.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1234 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:05 pm

Tornado threat ramping up in East Texas where three warnings are currently up, including the Kilgore/Longview area.

And maybe a PDS Tornado Watch about to be issued…

 https://twitter.com/cc_stormwatch/status/1602753746475266054


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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1235 Postby cheezyWXguy » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:06 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:I've never seen such a massive area below zero in the USA. I'm going to start preps to my home this weekend if this keeps up :eek: .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj4abcMWQAEBM0W?format=png&name=medium

It's December 1983 ALL OVER AGAIN on the 12z Euro! It's a literal Arctic Cannon!

Winter people I disagree with would have trouble imagining a better pattern than that run. Not only extreme cold, but likely to have disturbances ride up out of the SWUS/northern Mexico.

Still too early to get hyped on details like that, but the trend is a winter lover’s friend right now
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1236 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:17 pm

harp wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Yeah that Euro run is gonna get some heads turning.
How so?


Just ridiculously cold and the temp difference across Texas is mind boggling.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1237 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:19 pm

The Tornado Watch has been issued, not a PDS. 80/60%
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1238 Postby Quixotic » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:21 pm

It will not be ‘83 again. I don’t think people appreciate just how long it was cold. That said, might want to start worrying about the grid again.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1239 Postby Texas Snowman » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:26 pm

Quixotic wrote:It will not be ‘83 again. I don’t think people appreciate just how long it was cold. That said, might want to start worrying about the grid again.


I certainly appreciate how cold it was and how long it was cold. I was a senior in high school that year. We tried to go duck hunting on Lake Texoma during that arctic outbreak and the ice was so thick in the shallow cove we were going to set our decoys in that myself and two grown men couldn’t even get it to crack.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1240 Postby rwfromkansas » Tue Dec 13, 2022 3:27 pm

The cold on the Euro is far enough west based that it would help with precip chances I would think as cheezy mentioned.

Really interesting stuff. I am kind of kicking myself for not getting a generator after 2021. But, I felt surely I wouldn't need it again for a long time...
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