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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1141 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu May 04, 2023 9:40 pm

Geez it looks like big hail on radar.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1142 Postby txtwister78 » Thu May 04, 2023 9:44 pm

Monster supercell SW of San Antonio about to hit Crystal City. Definitely a big hailer.

 https://twitter.com/NWSSanAntonio/status/1654316051562385409


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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1143 Postby Cpv17 » Thu May 04, 2023 10:16 pm

txtwister78 wrote:Monster supercell SW of San Antonio about to hit Crystal City. Definitely a big hailer.

https://twitter.com/NWSSanAntonio/status/1654316051562385409?s=20


Cotulla next in line for it. Tons of thunderstorms coming off the mountains in Mexico.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1144 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu May 04, 2023 11:06 pm

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Iceresistance wrote:18z HRRR shows that there is a Supercell threat for DFW tonight, and there is a non-zero chance for storms on Friday, even though I strongly doubt any will develop in Central Oklahoma because of stronger inversion with weaker instability.

Saturday? Well, that is much more likely...

As of right now, I don't really see Saturday being a big event overall. There will probably be some big parameters but not a whole lot in terms of actual storms. That being said though, it's May so most days will see severe weather somewhere, and more than likely one or both of the marginal risk areas get upgraded to slight.

Personally I'm more interested in Sunday for now, I think it's got some decent potential for a bigger event, but we'll see.

Well the 0z HRRR fires multiple supercells on Saturday from C OK down into TX. 48hr HRRR isn't the most reliable but I was expecting it to show less than that. Interested to see what the SPC does for the Day 2 outlook in a couple hours.

Probably will have pretty big parameters across the area, although shear looks pretty low. Could be concerning if models start trending towards more convection firing.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1145 Postby Iceresistance » Fri May 05, 2023 6:27 am

ElectricStorm wrote:
ElectricStorm wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:18z HRRR shows that there is a Supercell threat for DFW tonight, and there is a non-zero chance for storms on Friday, even though I strongly doubt any will develop in Central Oklahoma because of stronger inversion with weaker instability.

Saturday? Well, that is much more likely...

As of right now, I don't really see Saturday being a big event overall. There will probably be some big parameters but not a whole lot in terms of actual storms. That being said though, it's May so most days will see severe weather somewhere, and more than likely one or both of the marginal risk areas get upgraded to slight.

Personally I'm more interested in Sunday for now, I think it's got some decent potential for a bigger event, but we'll see.

Well the 0z HRRR fires multiple supercells on Saturday from C OK down into TX. 48hr HRRR isn't the most reliable but I was expecting it to show less than that. Interested to see what the SPC does for the Day 2 outlook in a couple hours.

Probably will have pretty big parameters across the area, although shear looks pretty low. Could be concerning if models start trending towards more convection firing.

6z has the same thing, even the NAM is starting to show it too.

I think the models are up to something...
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1146 Postby Edwards Limestone » Fri May 05, 2023 9:46 am

 https://twitter.com/NWSSPC/status/1654458229601243138




https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html

SPC AC 051205

Day 1 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0705 AM CDT Fri May 05 2023

Valid 051300Z - 061200Z

...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS PARTS OF CENTRAL
TX AND THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS...

...SUMMARY...
Isolated to scattered severe thunderstorms are most likely across a
portion of central Texas and in the central Great Plains, centered
on 4 to 10 PM CDT. Large hail should be the primary hazard in terms
of coverage.

...Central TX vicinity...
In the wake of a low-amplitude shortwave impulse over the Lower MS
Valley, a low-amplitude mid-level ridge axis should become centered
over east TX through central NE at 21Z. Compared to yesterday, full
insolation will allow the dryline to mix farther east into central
OK, arcing south-southwest to the Edwards Plateau. Above-normal
agreement appears within guidance in indicating high-based
convection likely forming as surface temperatures approach the mid
to upper 90s across the Big Country vicinity. This activity will
deepen into at least isolated thunderstorms during the late
afternoon as it impinges on large warm-sector buoyancy over central
TX. Despite weak low-level flow, 30-40 kt effective bulk shear will
support a few slow-moving supercells with mid-level rotation capable
of producing very large hail. More prominent MLCIN deeper into the
warm sector and especially in time after sunset, along with a lack
of synoptic-scale ascent suggests that the spatiotemporal extent of
the threat will likely be limited. Thus, large hail should be the
primary hazard, but locally damaging severe wind gusts will be
possible given the ample CAPE/steep lapse rate environment.

...Central Great Plains...
A low-amplitude shortwave impulse embedded within the broader trough
across the West should track from the Lower CO Valley to the central
High Plains, impinging on a low-amplitude mid-level ridge that
should gradually progress east from the High Plains towards IA/MO
through early Saturday. This will encourage diurnal sharpening of
the lee trough with a cyclone becoming established over eastern CO.
This low will track east and weaken across northern KS tonight.

Scattered high-based thunderstorms will initially develop along the
lee trough across eastern WY into northeast CO during the mid to
late afternoon. The most concentrated corridor of sustained
thunderstorms into the evening should spread across western to
central NE and northwest KS, as activity impinges on the plume of
mainly 50s surface dew points over the central Great Plains.
Lower-level wind profiles will be weak initially, but some
elongation to a nearly straight-line hodograph should favor a few
sustained supercells. An increase in low-level southeasterlies is
expected during the evening, but this orientation will yield
increasing MLCIN spreading northwest from central/eastern KS and
modulate the severe threat tonight. As such, large hail should be
the main hazard with strong to locally severe wind gusts also
possible.

...Lower MS Valley...
A convectively aided low-amplitude shortwave impulse has been
coincident with an eastward-moving non-severe MCS across MS and
southeast LA. The stronger convection has been confined to the far
southern portion near the surface warm front. There will be a small
temporal window for intensification in a narrow swath before it
largely pushes off the central Gulf Coast later this morning.

Guidance is insistent that composite outflow/warm front trailing in
its wake to the northwest will serve as a focus for regenerative
thunderstorm development through early evening along and to the cool
side of the boundary, despite the shortwave impulse shifting east
and the elevated mixed layer impinging from TX. The first round of
this scenario appears to be underway with elevated convection
developing near the Ark-La-Tex, which may spread southeast through
the day. This type of setup should largely favor a cluster type
mode. With weakening low-level winds through the day, the sustenance
of embedded supercells is uncertain. A mix of isolated large hail
and damaging winds appears plausible, most likely centered on the
late afternoon.

..Grams/Kerr.. 05/05/2023
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1147 Postby txtwister78 » Fri May 05, 2023 11:38 am

Looks like the Waco region is going to be the target area for severe weather today.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1148 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri May 05, 2023 11:41 am

Waco is central right now it seems.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1149 Postby Iceresistance » Fri May 05, 2023 2:43 pm

I see something going up just west of DFW
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1150 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri May 05, 2023 2:44 pm

Euro/GFS really cutting back rain next week to just the typical inch or 2 for DFW.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1151 Postby bubba hotep » Fri May 05, 2023 2:49 pm

Today felt like the first huge CAPE day on my lunch run.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1152 Postby Edwards Limestone » Fri May 05, 2023 2:50 pm

Iceresistance wrote:I see something going up just west of DFW

rwfromkansas wrote:Waco is central right now it seems.


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https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0681.html

Mesoscale Discussion 0681
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
0242 PM CDT Fri May 05 2023

Areas affected...central Texas

Concerning...Severe potential...Watch likely

Valid 051942Z - 052145Z

Probability of Watch Issuance...80 percent

SUMMARY...Scattered storms are expected to form over the next few
hours across central Texas, with a threat of severe hail and a few
severe gusts.

DISCUSSION...A CU field continues to expand over parts of the
Edwards Plateau, with additional towering CU extending
east/northeast toward Denton. Strong heating over the elevated
terrain has led to an uncapped air mass, with modest destabilization
currently as dewpoints have mixed. Coincidentally, all of this
convection happens to be colocated with the 850 mb theta-e ridge.

With time, and despite only weak convergence, a few storms will
likely emerge out of the coalescing CU field, with a threat of
locally damaging hail or severe gusts. Mid to high level winds are
not particularly strong, suggesting multicell storm mode with
sporadic strong cores and updrafts propagating in various
directions, with downdrafts aided by the well-mixed boundary layer.

..Jewell/Guyer.. 05/05/2023
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1153 Postby bubba hotep » Fri May 05, 2023 2:51 pm

Iceresistance wrote:I see something going up just west of DFW


If that updraft can get surface based and survive, then it will trek into a decent parameter space as it moves eastward.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1154 Postby bubba hotep » Fri May 05, 2023 3:12 pm

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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1155 Postby bubba hotep » Fri May 05, 2023 5:29 pm

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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1156 Postby bubba hotep » Fri May 05, 2023 5:33 pm

Looks like another day of storms avoiding DFW

Starting to fall behind on the year for rainfall...

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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1157 Postby bubba hotep » Fri May 05, 2023 6:14 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:Euro/GFS really cutting back rain next week to just the typical inch or 2 for DFW.



Ensembles still look good in the longer range lol

Can't move inside 5 days for the past two months.
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1158 Postby Iceresistance » Fri May 05, 2023 6:56 pm

Supercell incoming for Round Rock, TX
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1159 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri May 05, 2023 7:02 pm

Well the 18z nam certainly isn’t panning out. Hrrr did a bit better in keeping things south but still underdid coverage. Not a great day for the cams in terms of precip depiction
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Re: Texas Spring 2023

#1160 Postby txtwister78 » Fri May 05, 2023 7:36 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Well the 18z nam certainly isn’t panning out. Hrrr did a bit better in keeping things south but still underdid coverage. Not a great day for the cams in terms of precip depiction


Yeah you might as well throw most of these out cycle to cycle in patterns like this where you have very little in the way of forcing other than weak impulses and leftover boundaries from the previous day storms. Really a crapshoot in terms of predicting/forecasting. An isolated storm has developed west of SA and HRRR wasn't really on that until the last two runs.

Generally speaking, the Central Texas target area was fairly accurate today though.
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