2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1021 Postby Landy » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:44 pm

ECMWF better consolidation for the disturbance in the GOM being discussed as of late.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1022 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:46 pm

Not sure that activity near the Yucatán on the GEFS and GFS is from the CAG. The genesis looks pretty similar to how Ida formed in 2021 with a tropical wave interacting with a low pressure area over South America.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1023 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:49 pm

Not sure that activity near the Yucatán on the GEFS and GFS is from the CAG. The genesis looks pretty similar to how Ida formed in 2021 with a tropical wave interacting with a low pressure area over South America.


Agreed. Latest Euro seems to have that look as well....

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1024 Postby mantis83 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:29 pm

anything that does form in the atlantic looks like fish storm city......good news!
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1025 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:49 pm

What I don't like seeing in both the GFS & Euro is for that wave to track farther south into NE Mexico early next week. That may leave SE Texas high and dry as far as rainfall.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1026 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:54 pm

Hmm...

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1027 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:17 pm

Landy wrote:ECMWF better consolidation for the disturbance in the GOM being discussed as of late.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/1141079787155226774/ec-fast_uv850_vort_watl_fh48-192.gif


Notice they have that 1016 isobar retreating NE on ~Tuesday next week.
Not that it would matter if this is still just a weak wave without much moisture then.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1028 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:18 pm

Atlantic is getting ready to wake up, with 4 different systems over the next 10 days if the Euro ensembles are correct.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1029 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:19 pm

Nimbus wrote:
Landy wrote:ECMWF better consolidation for the disturbance in the GOM being discussed as of late.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/1141079787155226774/ec-fast_uv850_vort_watl_fh48-192.gif




Notice they have that 1016 isobar retreating NE on ~Tuesday next week.
Not that it would matter if this is still just a weak wave without much moisture then.
Looks like it misses a weakness.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1030 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:20 pm

wxman57 wrote:What I don't like seeing in both the GFS & Euro is for that wave to track farther south into NE Mexico early next week. That may leave SE Texas high and dry as far as rainfall.


Can't shake off that La Nina like ridge across the south central US :cry:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1031 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:28 pm

wxman57 wrote:What I don't like seeing in both the GFS & Euro is for that wave to track farther south into NE Mexico early next week. That may leave SE Texas high and dry as far as rainfall.


I think we are going to miss out on the rainfall. To me in this pattern it’s more likely that the wave will not gain much latitude and go into South Texas or Northern Mexico.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1032 Postby AnnularCane » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:38 pm



Looks hairy out there.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1033 Postby HoustonFrog » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:50 pm

IcyTundra wrote:
wxman57 wrote:What I don't like seeing in both the GFS & Euro is for that wave to track farther south into NE Mexico early next week. That may leave SE Texas high and dry as far as rainfall.


I think we are going to miss out on the rainfall. To me in this pattern it’s more likely that the wave will not gain much latitude and go into South Texas or Northern Mexico.


Yeh we're screwed. Pure misery
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1034 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:56 pm



For the readers who may not realize it, the 12Z EPS tracks through and near the Bahamas are from the central MDR lemon.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1035 Postby Nederlander » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:08 pm

wxman57 wrote:What I don't like seeing in both the GFS & Euro is for that wave to track farther south into NE Mexico early next week. That may leave SE Texas high and dry as far as rainfall.

Yeah, not good. CMC wants to bury it in MX as well. Still have time but that would be down right cruel
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1036 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:11 pm

The ridge over the northern gulf just isn't budging. Temps of 100 degrees continues for the foreseeable future
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1037 Postby MississippiWx » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:27 pm

Ivanhater wrote:The ridge over the northern gulf just isn't budging. Temps of 100 degrees continues for the foreseeable future


Yep. Miserable weather. I think we are closed for business when it comes to relief via tropical moisture because of that ridge.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1038 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:35 pm

Its way too soon to rule out texas, considering a landfall is still 8 days out and we dont even have a closed low yet, alot can change, texas and the middle -upper texas coastline are still very much in play, and besides most models show NE Mexico- S texas landfall, it wouldnt take much weaking of the ridge for that track to shift north again
Anything the models show past 5 days for a landfall can be taken with a massive grain of salt
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1039 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:39 pm

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18Z ICON... Keeps shifting W as a TS heading WNW towards the islands...
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1040 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:28 pm

And 18z GFS shifts north some with a slightly more organized gulf system, last run was into brownsville, this run south padre island, slightly weaker ridge, it aint over till its over
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