2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1181 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:40 am

What model and run is that SFL?


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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1182 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:41 am

SouthFLTropics wrote:What model and run is that SFL?


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CFS, fyi did great picking up the current activity.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1183 Postby boca » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:55 am

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SouthFLTropics wrote:What model and run is that SFL?


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CFS, fyi did great picking up the current activity.


Did that storm the model is showing form yet or still in Africa?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1184 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:25 am

boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:What model and run is that SFL?


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CFS, fyi did great picking up the current activity.


Did that storm the model is showing form yet or still in Africa?


That is I believe Franklin on the CFS just offshore
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1185 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:51 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
CFS, fyi did great picking up the current activity.


Did that storm the model is showing form yet or still in Africa?


That is I believe Franklin on the CFS just offshore


Na i think this is 92L.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1186 Postby boca » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
boca wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
CFS, fyi did great picking up the current activity.


Did that storm the model is showing form yet or still in Africa?


That is I believe Franklin on the CFS just offshore


Franklin is supposed to head north once it crosses Hispaniola towards Bermuda not towards Florida.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1187 Postby jfk08c » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:05 am

boca wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
boca wrote:
Did that storm the model is showing form yet or still in Africa?


That is I believe Franklin on the CFS just offshore


Franklin is supposed to head north once it crosses Hispaniola towards Bermuda not towards Florida.


Tell that to the latest ICON run
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1188 Postby IcyTundra » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:11 pm

The next wave to watch is going to be coming off of Africa early next week. GFS, Euro, CMC, GEFS, and EPS show potential development with varying levels of support.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1189 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:26 pm

boca wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
boca wrote:
Did that storm the model is showing form yet or still in Africa?


That is I believe Franklin on the CFS just offshore


Franklin is supposed to head north once it crosses Hispaniola towards Bermuda not towards Florida.


Definitely was 92L on the 12Z GFS. Into Pensacola in 384 hrs. Where have we seen such a forecast before?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1190 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:13 am

00Z GFS really gets the wave train going starting next week. Wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple more named storms heading into September.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1191 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 22, 2023 2:52 am

00Z models are in excellent agreement on a storm moving towards the Northern Gulf next week. Euro, Icon, Cmc

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1192 Postby REDHurricane » Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:00 am

Ivanhater wrote:00Z models are in excellent agreement on a storm moving towards the Northern Gulf next week. Euro, Icon, Cmc

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1193 Postby N2FSU » Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:38 am

0z Euro ensembles jumping on a storm moving into the northern Gulf next week as well: Image
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1194 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:26 am

N2FSU wrote:0z Euro ensembles jumping on a storm moving into the northern Gulf next week as well: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230822/31bad4422f4216156e726debe8294098.jpeg
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The euro had a very intense panhandle system a couple of days ago, then lost it, and now it's back with model support, it looks like we have our first big player of the season. Meanwhile, we continue to dodge systems in SE Florida...harry to the west, frank to the se and now this gulf system to the west.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1195 Postby chris_fit » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:48 am

Nadda on the 06 GFZ in regards to the possible new gulf system.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1196 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:06 am

jlauderdal wrote:
N2FSU wrote:0z Euro ensembles jumping on a storm moving into the northern Gulf next week as well: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230822/31bad4422f4216156e726debe8294098.jpeg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230822/67cbc4f7cba081887342d13941b4872e.jpeg


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The euro had a very intense panhandle system a couple of days ago, then lost it, and now it's back with model support, it looks like we have our first big player of the season. Meanwhile, we continue to dodge systems in SE Florida...harry to the west, frank to the se and now this gulf system to the west.


What are we dodging if nothing has formed yet? :wink:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1197 Postby REDHurricane » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:45 am

SFLcane wrote:What are we dodging if nothing has formed yet? :wink:


I agree it's more likely than not that nothing significant will form from this -- all three models have the system in question originally coming from a piece of vorticity that breaks off from the EPac monsoon trough and survives crossing over a large chunk of Central America into the Gulf in about 5 days, which doesn't seem highly probable at this point. However, if I remember correctly some of the models last year were predicting the formation/approximate path of Ian about 7-8 days in advance, and the fact that 3/4 main models are showing the same general atmospheric pattern in place less than a week out isn't meaningless. The next day or two's model runs should give us a much better idea of what could happen, and it'll be interesting to see whether or not the GFS (which loves spinning up these CAG storms) jumps on board or if the other models end up trending toward the GFS solution
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1198 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 22, 2023 7:20 am

Should certainly keep an eye on this area.

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1199 Postby lsuhurricane » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:46 am

We've been down this road before (just last week) on modeled CAG type development in the 5-7 day range. GEFS showing little to no support, but otherwise, looks like something to watch seeing that its only 100-120 hours out.

0z EPS was extremely robust with development.

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1200 Postby TomballEd » Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:44 am

HRD scientist Andy Hazelton says the Euro has too much of a bias toward maintaining strength of features crossing land. He leans GFS, it sees the same weak disturbance crossing from the Pacific, but weakens the low level vorticity as it crosses the mountains. There are some GFS ensembles that do cross from the Pacific, but not as many
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