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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1601 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:05 pm



Not to shabby for a strong El Niño eh.. Thought the season was supposed to shut down lol? :lol:
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1602 Postby CryHavoc » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:07 pm

Fancy1002 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:That suggests a pressure of 983 mb with that dropsonde. But nothing to support stronger winds.

In your professional opinion, how far can the pressure drop before the winds catch up?


It varies wildly by storm.

Ike in 2008 notably saw some pretty dramatic pressure drops with only minor increases in wind speed - instead the wind field expanded greatly. IIRC he made landfall around 952 mb with "only" 110mph winds.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1603 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:08 pm

SFLcane wrote:


Not to shabby for a strong El Niño eh.. Thought the season was supposed to shut down lol? :lol:

10/3/2 heading into September in a strong Nino is impressive no doubt.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1604 Postby johngaltfla » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:13 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
SFLcane wrote:


Not to shabby for a strong El Niño eh.. Thought the season was supposed to shut down lol? :lol:

10/3/2 heading into September in a strong Nino is impressive no doubt.


It's a conspiracy to keep me from ever winning the S2K prediction game. :grr:

Back to our regularly scheduled hurricane.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1605 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:15 pm

The anti-cyclone anchored over the Yucatan has kept Idalia's vort column tilted all day.
Looks like a PV Streamer is starting to impinge on the anti-cyclone which will weaken it.
Also, Idalia moving away from the anti-cyclone will also help to get the vort column stacked.
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#1606 Postby Category5Kaiju » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:17 pm

SFLcane wrote:


Not to shabby for a strong El Niño eh.. Thought the season was supposed to shut down lol? :lol:


I think the people who believed that moderate El Niño certainly meant a dead Atlantic with no notable systems are scrambling to grab their jaws from the ground :lol:
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#1607 Postby aspen » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:17 pm

AF304 looks to be having trouble finding Idalia’s LLC.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1608 Postby zzzh » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:19 pm

aspen wrote:AF304 looks to be having trouble finding Idalia’s LLC.

NOAA crew has no trouble doing that. No idea what the AF plane is doing.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1609 Postby FLLurker32 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:21 pm

WESH 2 in Central Florida still sharing that their in-house FutureCast model is East on the cone with hurricane impacts to north central FL.
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#1610 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:25 pm

FLLurker32 wrote:WESH 2 in Central Florida still sharing that their in-house FutureCast model is East on the cone with hurricane impacts to north central FL.
Eric burris will die on that hill, will see if it verifies
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1611 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:25 pm

aspen wrote:AF304 looks to be having trouble finding Idalia’s LLC.


Is it because it is over the western tip of Cuba? That’s where the newest blow up of convection is.
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#1612 Postby dukeblue219 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:29 pm

FLLurker32 wrote:WESH 2 in Central Florida still sharing that their in-house FutureCast model is East on the cone with hurricane impacts to north central FL.


These "in-house" models aren't anything special. They may guess right now and then, but I wouldn't put any stock in it compared to the big globals or even the well-known hurricane models.
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#1613 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:30 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
aspen wrote:AF304 looks to be having trouble finding Idalia’s LLC.


Is it because it is over the western tip of Cuba? That’s where the newest blow up of convection is.


Bingo. Avoiding the western tip.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1614 Postby Keldeo1997 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:31 pm

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Attempting to wrap
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#1615 Postby FLLurker32 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
FLLurker32 wrote:WESH 2 in Central Florida still sharing that their in-house FutureCast model is East on the cone with hurricane impacts to north central FL.
Eric burris will die on that hill, will see if it verifies

It’s their chief meteorologist, Tony Mainolfi, posting it this time. They’ll either be vindicated or bust big time. We’ll see.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1616 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:32 pm


Was about to say, this is the best attempt Ive seen yet. Probably still a ways off though.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1617 Postby Zonacane » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:33 pm


That's the farthest I've seen an attempt get so far
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1618 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:34 pm

Not a lot of pop ups over the Yucatan today.
Updraft is weak which in turn weakens the anti-cyclone.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1619 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:34 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:
aspen wrote:AF304 looks to be having trouble finding Idalia’s LLC.


Is it because it is over the western tip of Cuba? That’s where the newest blow up of convection is.


Bingo. Avoiding the western tip.


If the coc truly is moving over western Cuba then she is east of all the 18z model guidance
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1620 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:38 pm

Pretty dry close to the CoC 950mb to about 775mb
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