2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1321 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:36 pm

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1322 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Aug 28, 2023 6:00 pm


It's too small, can you please resize it larger?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1323 Postby SconnieCane » Mon Aug 28, 2023 7:14 pm

Is that Idalia coming back for FL round 2? :eek:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1324 Postby Ianswfl » Mon Aug 28, 2023 8:41 pm

SconnieCane wrote:Is that Idalia coming back for FL round 2? :eek:


Yep! A weak TS. Crosses over and hits the same location again!
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1325 Postby IcyTundra » Mon Aug 28, 2023 11:00 pm

12Z EPS really likes this wave coming off of Africa this weekend. Comes off at a relatively low latitude.

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1326 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:27 am

0z GFS develops a TS in the subtropics in 5-6 days. We'll see if other models start latching on.

EDIT: Looks like CMC has it as a TD\

EDIT2: Looks like it might be 92L
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1327 Postby CFLHurricane » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:48 am

The 00z EPS ensembles are depicting heightened activity around the Bahamas as we look towards the peak of peak, so no rest for the weary this season.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1328 Postby chris_fit » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:57 pm

12Z EPS still likes an MDR Runner.

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1329 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:08 pm

chris_fit wrote:12Z EPS still likes an MDR Runner.

https://i.imgur.com/RgejjCo.png


Yea for sure! :eek:

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1330 Postby Ianswfl » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:14 pm

SFLcane wrote:
chris_fit wrote:12Z EPS still likes an MDR Runner.

https://i.imgur.com/RgejjCo.png


Yea for sure! :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/TwLTtKbt/jjjj.png


If certain members of that run panned out that storm would be far more destructive for FL assuming there is a high in place.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1331 Postby USTropics » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:17 pm

the 12z ECMWF developed this on its operational run:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1332 Postby LAF92 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:36 pm

USTropics wrote:the 12z ECMWF developed this on its operational run:
https://i.imgur.com/4uWeA2o.png

The 12z CMC does too a little slower but similar storm from a MB standpoint
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1333 Postby mantis83 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:12 pm

huge weakness in atlantic will easily scoop this up and out.....
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1334 Postby USTropics » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:23 pm

mantis83 wrote:huge weakness in atlantic will easily scoop this up and out.....


There are quite a few ensemble members that show building high pressure behind this system with a weakening trough over the western North Atlantic, some members have a distinct bend back to the west showing this:
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With the usual caveats this is a long range forecast (240 hours), but the EPS doesnt show a strong signal for a trough:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1335 Postby Cpv17 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:35 pm

USTropics wrote:
mantis83 wrote:huge weakness in atlantic will easily scoop this up and out.....


There are quite a few ensemble members that show building high pressure behind this system with a weakening trough over the western North Atlantic, some members have a distinct bend back to the west showing this:
https://i.imgur.com/8oHdN2Z.png

With the usual caveats this is a long range forecast (240 hours), but the EPS doesnt show a strong signal for a trough:
https://i.imgur.com/TpWj1d3.png


Yep. I was just about to comment something similar.
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Re: RE: Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1336 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:43 pm

Ianswfl wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
chris_fit wrote:12Z EPS still likes an MDR Runner.

https://i.imgur.com/RgejjCo.png


Yea for sure! :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/TwLTtKbt/jjjj.png


If certain members of that run panned out that storm would be far more destructive for FL assuming there is a high in place.
Hopefully it stays away, no more florida hurricanes this season.
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Re: RE: Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1337 Postby Ianswfl » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:20 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
Ianswfl wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Yea for sure! :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/TwLTtKbt/jjjj.png


If certain members of that run panned out that storm would be far more destructive for FL assuming there is a high in place.
Hopefully it stays away, no more florida hurricanes this season.


Some of those members have an Irma Vibe. Also, same time of year too!
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1338 Postby cane5 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:15 pm

This will be the second year in a row all we heard was Tampa Tampa Tampa and the models were off by over 100 miles. The weather channel just needs to slow down the hype until the storm is 24 hours before landfall.

Does not mean we don’t need a cone of concern because it generally is mildly accurate 3 days out but it’s almost getting silly and a waste of millions to relocate people 3 days in advance.
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Re: RE: Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1339 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:29 pm

cane5 wrote:This will be the second year in a row all we heard was Tampa Tampa Tampa and the models were off by over 100 miles. The weather channel just needs to slow down the hype until the storm is 24 hours before landfall.

Does not mean we don’t need a cone of concern because it generally is mildly accurate 3 days out but it’s almost getting silly and a waste of millions to relocate people 3 days in advance.
You are going to wait until 24hrs to evac people? Too many people from non evac zones leave.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#1340 Postby IcyTundra » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:58 pm

cane5 wrote:This will be the second year in a row all we heard was Tampa Tampa Tampa and the models were off by over 100 miles. The weather channel just needs to slow down the hype until the storm is 24 hours before landfall.

Does not mean we don’t need a cone of concern because it generally is mildly accurate 3 days out but it’s almost getting silly and a waste of millions to relocate people 3 days in advance.


Models never showed a Tampa landfall for Idalia. There was some concern that the track could shift further south but that never panned out.
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