ATL: IDALIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[chaser1]

I wanted to share this link in case anyone wants to see the storm surge as it happens.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JXoJM5FaDqY?si=DfDUKCer5ulTCbnM

Awesome link. Gonna grab a beer, cast that to my large tv screen a little later, and kick back

[Iceresistance]

Eye starting to clear out now. Becoming a lot more visible on IR.

ADT has jumped to a 4.3

[ScottNAtlanta]

AF pressure is 966 and they have been circling in the center

[HurricaneBelle]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

Agree, seems to soon for an EWRC.

Never understood the incessant rush to be the first to declare an EWRC. Do you get a donut or something as a prize?

[kronotsky]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

What is the evidence you're citing for concentric eyewalls?

Also, 12 nm and 20 nm are not compatible distances for concentric eyewalls (20 nm is much too small).

[jdjaguar]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

Agree, seems to soon for an EWRC.

Never understood the incessant rush to be the first to declare an EWRC. Do you get a donut or something as a prize?

human nature

[ScottNAtlanta]

I wanted to share this link in case anyone wants to see the storm surge as it happens.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JXoJM5FaDqY?si=DfDUKCer5ulTCbnM

Awesome link. Gonna grab a beer, cast that to my large tv screen a little later, and kick back

As always ...these crazy people on the beach

[tolakram]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

Show me where?

[BobHarlem]

I wanted to share this link in case anyone wants to see the storm surge as it happens.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JXoJM5FaDqY?si=DfDUKCer5ulTCbnM

Lemme guess. You wanted to embed that video instead of just posting its link and gave up in utter frustration after pulling your hair out. Right? Been there, done that.

Here we go:

https://youtu.be/JXoJM5FaDqY

The trick is to start the URL that's wrapped in the YouTube tags with https://youtu.be/ and then add the video ID after the trailing slash. In this instance, the video ID is JXoJM5FaDqY. So, the full URL to place between the YouTube tags is https://youtu.be/JXoJM5FaDqY (just like it appears below the embedded video above).

these will go out with power outages, Mark Sudduth usually has the wireless battery powered cameras sometimes on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpL4eTz_gQ4

[youtube]https://youtu.be/MpL4eTz_gQ4[/youtube]

[InfernoFlameCat]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

There is a small moat, but it’s at a high radar beam, moats at common between rainbands and the eyewall, I don’t see a distinct second eyewall though. And, the moat is only on one half of the storm, which is typical.

[Fancy1002]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

The eye is extremely ragged, and it looks like they didn’t go through a straight line, they kind of zigzagged.

[Iceresistance]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

What is the evidence you're citing for concentric eyewalls?

Also, 12 nm and 20 nm are not compatible distances for concentric eyewalls (20 nm is much too small).

VDM posted by Cycloneye

[ScottNAtlanta]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

What is the evidence you're citing for concentric eyewalls?

Also, 12 nm and 20 nm are not compatible distances for concentric eyewalls (20 nm is much too small).

Recon

Eye Shape: Concentric (has an inner and outer eye)

[chaser1]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

I look at it purely as eye wall contraction as a result of rapid pressure falls, but I view that as a more "formative" process

[kronotsky]

How else would you explain concentric eyewalls if it isn't an EWRC? I don't know of any other reason

What is the evidence you're citing for concentric eyewalls?

Also, 12 nm and 20 nm are not compatible distances for concentric eyewalls (20 nm is much too small).

Recon

Not sure how the flight is judging concentricity, but if I saw a wind minima between 12 nm and 20 nm I would be pretty confident that it didn't have anything to do with multip[le eyewalls. Also, these are diameters, right? How can a storm have an eyewall at 6 nm from the center and also at 10 nm from the center? I'm most inclined to believe it's some kind of typo.

[wx98]

Pretty good NE jog per the AF plane. Will it iron out or will it try to move more toward Cedar Key? We shall see…

[ScottNAtlanta]

Just an FYI...I am only quoting the recon report which says:

Eye Shape: Concentric (has an inner and outer eye)

If anyone can explain another reason for concentric eye walls let me know. There might be an explanation other than a replacement cycle. I am just saying I don't know of one. If one of the pro-mets can chime in...maybe we can all learn something.

[Fancy1002]

Just an FYI...I am only quoting the recon report which says:

Eye Shape: Concentric (has an inner and outer eye)

If anyone can explain another reason for concentric eye walls let me know. There might be an explanation other than a replacement cycle. I am just saying I don't know of one. If one of the pro-mets can chime in...maybe we can all learn something.

It could be a meld rather than a replacement, or the remnants of a dead eye wall that failed to actualize earlier.

[chaser1]

Hasn't even cleared out an eye and already calls of EWRC. I won't argue, but I will disagree. We shall see.

Agree, seems to soon for an EWRC.

Never understood the incessant rush to be the first to declare an EWRC. Do you get a donut or something as a prize?

Yes but better yet, one gets concentric donuts!!!

[ScottNAtlanta]

What is the evidence you're citing for concentric eyewalls?

Also, 12 nm and 20 nm are not compatible distances for concentric eyewalls (20 nm is much too small).

Recon

Not sure how the flight is judging concentricity, but if I saw a wind minima between 12 nm and 20 nm I would be pretty confident that it didn't have anything to do with multip[le eyewalls. Also, these are diameters, right? How can a storm have an eyewall at 6 nm from the center and also at 10 nm from the center? I'm most inclined to believe it's some kind of typo.

Dude...they said concentric eyewalls...I will defer to them since they know more than I do