ATL: IDALIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2761 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:58 pm

...IDALIA STILL STRENGTHENING... ...FORECAST TO BE AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 INTENSITY AT LANDFALL...

11:00 PM EDT Tue Aug 29
Location: 27.7°N 84.5°W
Moving: N at 18 mph
Min pressure: 958 mb
Max sustained: 110 mph
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2762 Postby Hurrilurker » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:59 pm

Looks like she's getting pretty strong winds into her south side? I don't mean winds inside Idalia, but pushing into it.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2763 Postby pcolaman » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:00 pm

tolakram wrote:...IDALIA STILL STRENGTHENING... ...FORECAST TO BE AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 INTENSITY AT LANDFALL...

11:00 PM EDT Tue Aug 29
Location: 27.7°N 84.5°W
Moving: N at 18 mph
Min pressure: 958 mb
Max sustained: 110 mph


A to think it's going to hit that area that has never been hit in my lifetime with that strong of a storm.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2764 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:00 pm

ZCZC MIATCDAT5 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

Hurricane Idalia Discussion Number 14
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL102023
1100 PM EDT Tue Aug 29 2023

Satellite and NWS radar imagery show that Idalia is becoming
increasingly more organized. The eye on the Tampa WSR-88D is
becoming better defined and the cloud pattern on GOES 16 imagery
consists of a growing Central Dense Overcast with a strong
convective band over the eastern semicircle of the circulation.
Reconnaissance aircraft measurements show that the central pressure
is steadily falling and is now around 958 mb. Flight-level and
SFMR-observed winds along with Doppler velocity data from the
aircraft support an intensity of 95 kt for this advisory.

Idalia is now moving faster toward the north or slightly east of
north with a motion estimate of 010/16 kt. The hurricane is moving
between a mid-level trough over the northwestern Gulf of Mexico and
ridge over the Bahamas and Greater Antilles. The system is expected
to turn north-northeastward within the next 12 hours, make landfall
along the northeastern Gulf coast, and then move northeastward to
eastward on the southern side of a mid-level trough moving off the
northeast U.S. coast. The 12-hour track forecast point for this
advisory has been nudged a bit westward, a little west of the model
consensus, but close to the latest GFS and ECMWF solutions. It
should be noted that some credible models, i.e. the HAFS-A and
HAFS-B predictions, are even a little father west.

After landfall, Idalia is expected to move near or along the coast
of Georgia and the Carolinas in 24-36 hours. Uncertainty in the
track forecast beyond 48 hours remains quite large, with some of
the global models turning Idalia southward, while some of the
regional hurricane models show the storm moving out to sea. Given
the uncertainties, the official track forecast shows a slow
southeastward motion in 4 to 5 days.

Based on the current strengthening trend and the favorable
thermodynamic and oceanic conditions, significant strengthening
seems likely up to landfall. The new official intensity forecast
calls for Idalia to reach category 4 strength at landfall. This is
fairly close to the HAFS And HWRF regional hurricane model
simulations. After the center moves back over the Atlantic,
significant restrengthening is not anticipated at this time due to
the expectation of strong vertical west-southwesterly vertical wind
shear.

Dangerous winds are likely to spread well inland near the path of
Idalia due to its relatively fast forward motion.


KEY MESSAGES:

1. Catastrophic impacts from storm surge inundation of 12 to 16 feet
above ground level and destructive waves are expected somewhere
between the Wakulla/Jefferson County line and Yankeetown, Florida.
Life-threatening storm surge inundation is likely elsewhere along
portions of the Florida Gulf Coast where a Storm Surge Warning is in
effect. Residents in these areas should follow any advice given by
local officials.

2. There is the potential for destructive life-threatening winds
where the core of Idalia moves onshore in the Big Bend region of
Florida, with hurricane conditions expected elsewhere in portions of
the Hurricane Warning area along the Florida Gulf Coast. Strong
winds will also spread inland across portions of northern Florida
and southern Georgia near the track of the center of Idalia where
Hurricane Warnings are in effect. Residents in these areas should be
prepared for long-duration power outages. Damaging hurricane-force
winds are possible in portions of eastern Georgia and southeastern
South Carolina where Hurricane Watches are in effect.

3. Areas of flash, urban, and moderate river flooding, with locally
considerable impacts, are expected across the Florida Big Bend,
central Georgia and South Carolina, through eastern North Carolina
into Thursday.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 30/0300Z 27.7N 84.5W 95 KT 110 MPH
12H 30/1200Z 30.0N 83.9W 115 KT 130 MPH...ON COAST
24H 31/0000Z 32.3N 81.3W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND
36H 31/1200Z 33.5N 78.6W 50 KT 60 MPH...OVER WATER
48H 01/0000Z 33.8N 75.0W 50 KT 60 MPH
60H 01/1200Z 33.5N 72.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
72H 02/0000Z 32.9N 71.0W 45 KT 50 MPH
96H 03/0000Z 32.0N 69.4W 45 KT 50 MPH
120H 04/0000Z 31.0N 68.4W 45 KT 50 MPH

$$
Forecaster Pasch
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2765 Postby amawea » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:01 pm

This thing is moving at a pretty good clip, (16mph) so anyone in it's path better head out now!
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2766 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:01 pm

I know wobbles are deceiving but looks like heading to somewhere around Carabelle
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2767 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:02 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2768 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:03 pm

Still warming ever so slightly

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2769 Postby Poonwalker » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:05 pm

I guess I should have been more precise. I reacted to the track being north and threatening an area I thought was going to have less impact initially. I didn’t mean to infer people in newer homes well inland should all evacuate, just the ones in zones that were encouraged to do so or mandated to do so. Sorry if I came across as fear mongering. I do just want people to be safe that is the bottom line.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2770 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:05 pm

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2771 Postby Zonacane » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:05 pm

Highteeld wrote:Still warming ever so slightly

https://i.imgur.com/uUfBPI2.png

Gone up by 30C in the time it started poking out, won't be long until it breaks into positive
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2772 Postby Fancy1002 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:05 pm

So what do you think the next I name will be after they retire idalia.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2773 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:06 pm

Too close now for any type of developing EWRC to have an effect
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2774 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:06 pm

Riding the archive snake, track again shifted west, just a bit.

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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2775 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:06 pm

GCANE wrote:Looking more like an EWRC maybe in the works

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4vyDuHXUAA ... me=900x900


Certainly hasn't begun yet.

See what happens
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2776 Postby sweetpea » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:07 pm

Not looking good for us here at all in Wakulla. Our beautiful county and a couple counties east of us will not look the same tomorrow. Hope everyone stays safe!
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2777 Postby LandoWill » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:08 pm

Hope the swamp and wildlife sanctuary has taken precautions. Worse places this could hit then where its predicted
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2778 Postby JtSmarts » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:11 pm

80mph still expected just to the west of Savannah. Could be a big event for parts of GA and the low country of SC.
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2779 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:11 pm

As far as category damage goes, since there was some discussion earlier, the NHC still has this page with a video of they type of wind destruction expected at various wind speeds.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutsshws.php
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Re: ATL: IDALIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2780 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:12 pm

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