ATL: LEE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1021 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:41 pm

Thank goodness Lee will most likely stay away from land at this crazy intensity… :double:
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1022 Postby WalterWhite » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:42 pm

The SE quadrant does not appear to be particularly impressive from the recon data.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1023 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:42 pm



The rain rate is nuts too
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1024 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:43 pm

GCANE wrote:Looks like they got a secondary wind max outbound.

It’s really really close to the primary max, so I think we’re going to see an Irma-like eyewall meld, something that the hurricane models have been showing for a while. Just a lot earlier than they modeled.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1025 Postby SconnieCane » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:44 pm

So, @GCANE you were saying it's still not perfectly positioned relative to the ULAC? And it's STILL intensifying like this?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1026 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:46 pm

Eye is getting ragged on IR. Looks like an eyewall meld is starting. If it’s like Irma, we should see this continue to explode during tomorrow morning’s flights.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1027 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:47 pm

SconnieCane wrote:So, @GCANE you were saying it's still not perfectly positioned relative to the ULAC? And it's STILL intensifying like this?


Its crazy
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1028 Postby zzzh » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:48 pm

Drop 930mb 20kt :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1029 Postby WalterWhite » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:48 pm

Honestly, what is up with the large discrepancy between the FL estimate (130 kt when adjusted by 90%) and the SMFR estimate (155 kt)?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1030 Postby eastcoastFL » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:48 pm

aspen wrote:Eye is getting ragged on IR. Looks like an eyewall meld is starting. If it’s like Irma, we should see this continue to explode during tomorrow morning’s flights.


What is an eye meld?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1031 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:48 pm

Eye drop supports 928mb, about a 5mb drop since last pass
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1032 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:49 pm

Eye drop
58% RH at 850 mb
Drying out fast
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1033 Postby SconnieCane » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:49 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
aspen wrote:Eye is getting ragged on IR. Looks like an eyewall meld is starting. If it’s like Irma, we should see this continue to explode during tomorrow morning’s flights.


What is an eye meld?


Where a formative outer eyewall just kind of gets fused into the old inner one instead of constricting around it and gradually choking it off like in a standard EWRC. Thus the usual (sometimes temporary, sometimes not) decrease in maximum intensity normally seen with an EWRC is less pronounced or non-existent.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1034 Postby lajga » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:49 pm

EWRC question made prior reply is it can take up to 18 hours per what I understand. It is also my understanding the worry of an EWRC expands the distance of the wind field that many worry about. Although an EWRC usually causes a weakening while going through it, it is also my understanding that once complete, a favorable environment can cause it to grow even bigger and stronger once again. I am of the understanding it can go through more than one EWRC too. Am I correct in my understanding?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1035 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:50 pm

aspen wrote:
GCANE wrote:Looks like they got a secondary wind max outbound.

It’s really really close to the primary max, so I think we’re going to see an Irma-like eyewall meld, something that the hurricane models have been showing for a while. Just a lot earlier than they modeled.


Image
Looks like a W wobble to.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1036 Postby SconnieCane » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:50 pm

lajga wrote:EWRC question made prior reply is it can take up to 18 hours per what I understand. It is also my understanding the worry of an EWRC expands the distance of the wind field that many worry about. Although an EWRC usually causes a weakening while going through it, it is also my understanding that once complete, a favorable environment can cause it to grow even bigger and stronger once again. I am of the understanding it can go through more than one EWRC too. Am I correct in my understanding?


Yes, that all sounds about right.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1037 Postby aspen » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:52 pm

This pass supports 145 kt/928 mbar. Easy Cat 5.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1038 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:52 pm

GCANE wrote:Eye drop
58% RH at 850 mb
Drying out fast


Can see the drying on all levels of WV Rapid Scan
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1039 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:52 pm

zzzh wrote:Drop 930mb 20kt :lol: :lol: :lol:


5 mb pressure drop in about 2 hours.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1040 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Sep 07, 2023 8:55 pm

It's a very warm eye too with a surface air temperature of 27.2°C in the eye of Lee.

What is the warmest eye ever in an Atlantic storm?
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