ATL: LEE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1341 Postby crimi481 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:19 pm

Lee is a fighter. Fighting off that un forecasted shear and some SAL. Same as last storm in S.E. Gulf.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1342 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:24 pm

Coolcruiseman wrote:
aspen wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:
The moderate shear and dry mid-level air that has affected Lee
today is not expected to abate during the next 12-24 hours. After
that time, the upper-level wind pattern could become a little more
conducive for re-strengthening. However, the timing of eyewall
replacement cycles makes it difficult to predict when Lee might
re-intensify.


Seems like the NHC isn't confident on what the shear will do either. They seem to imply the shear might not go away anytime soon.

This shear really came out of nowhere. The hurricane models were forecasting a phenomenal environment until around Tuesday, a little before it starts its turn.


A great example of how a no-turn could come out of nowhere. Which is why it’s important to not just write off a Bahamas/Florida impact.


How does this effect the ridge and steering?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1343 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:29 pm

Shear map as of 21z (about an hour and a half ago) Still 20-25kts of shear over the center with the anticyclone displaced well to the south
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1344 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:31 pm

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1345 Postby Keldeo1997 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:42 pm

It would just be our luck if this thing weakened to the point it misses the weakness, gets in the gulf and comes back to life.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1346 Postby ThunderForce » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:47 pm

I can't even tell if Lee is still moving WNW or not.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1347 Postby SouthernBreeze » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:49 pm

ThunderForce wrote:I can't even tell if Lee is still moving WNW or not.

I'm seeing a little WNW from over the past few hours when I marked it's position, but seems to have really slowed down
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1348 Postby dukeblue219 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:52 pm

SouthernBreeze wrote:
ThunderForce wrote:I can't even tell if Lee is still moving WNW or not.

I'm seeing a little WNW from over the past few hours when I marked it's position, but seems to have really slowed down

I'm not even sure where the eye is going to pop out next. It seems to be recentering to the SW of the old eye.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1349 Postby brad512 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:56 pm

It won't be much longer now, honestly I'm gonna back off a bit even and go with 105kt/952.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1350 Postby GeneralChow » Fri Sep 08, 2023 5:59 pm

ThunderForce wrote:I can't even tell if Lee is still moving WNW or not.


I've been trying to figure that out. It could be going a smidge North of Due West. The vorticity seem elongated at various levels. Mid-Level to the NE and Lower Levels to the SW.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1351 Postby crimi481 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:02 pm

Kinda looks due west - last hour or so. Is Lee off the forecast track by much?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1352 Postby GeneralChow » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:04 pm

brad512 wrote:It won't be much longer now, honestly I'm gonna back off a bit even and go with 105kt/952.


A bit Unsportsmanlike, but I guess there's nothing we can do about it. lol. What was your original call?
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1353 Postby dukeblue219 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:05 pm

Hmm did AF plane just make a U turn? Odd adjustment so close to the storm.

Edit - nope, just making a 360 and the data update was just cutoff in the right place to make it look like a U for 10 minutes
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1354 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:07 pm

crimi481 wrote:Kinda looks due west - last hour or so. Is Lee off the forecast track by much?


I saw that too but it appears to be on track

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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1355 Postby brad512 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:10 pm

GeneralChow wrote:
brad512 wrote:It won't be much longer now, honestly I'm gonna back off a bit even and go with 105kt/952.


A bit Unsportsmanlike, but I guess there's nothing we can do about it. lol. What was your original call?


110/947 haha, looks a bit messy right now the banding seems worse, and I see a bit of dry air on the NE side, although I don't know how close it is to actually be affecting anything.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1356 Postby WalterWhite » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:10 pm

ElectricStorm wrote:Shear map as of 21z (about an hour and a half ago) Still 20-25kts of shear over the center with the anticyclone displaced well to the south
https://i.imgur.com/XI8n37L.gif

Once Lee tracks farther WNW, it should enter a zone of low wind shear and start intensifying again.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1357 Postby aspen » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:12 pm

And here I thought Lee would be peaking today lol. It looks like a dying Cat 3.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1358 Postby brad512 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:14 pm

aspen wrote:And here I thought Lee would be peaking today lol. It looks like a dying Cat 3.


Kind of reminds me of Delta 2020 collapsing all the sudden from a 4 to a 2/1, although I guess we'll have to see if it's as dramatic or not as that was.
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1359 Postby Hurricane2022 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:15 pm

I'll be surprised if recon finds anything above 100 - 105 kts in Lee now
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Re: ATL: LEE - Hurricane - Discussion

#1360 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:24 pm

Im not even convinced this thing is a major hurricane at this point, looks like a total dumpster fire.

May be 100 KTS, but I doubt it's much more than that.
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