2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability (Day 16+ Climate Models)

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models) / C35 model up

#281 Postby cycloneye » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:52 pm

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Nothing that hasn't been said already but here's 2005/2010/2024 compared graphically (Feb 9 because the 10th isn't available on the site:):
https://i.ibb.co/6XFR65Y/ezgif-com-animated-gif-maker-1.gif


Apart from the tropical zones, looks like some of the subtropical areas are warmer in 2024.
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models) / C35 model up

#282 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:55 pm

cycloneye wrote:
DorkyMcDorkface wrote:Nothing that hasn't been said already but here's 2005/2010/2024 compared graphically (Feb 9 because the 10th isn't available on the site:):
https://i.ibb.co/6XFR65Y/ezgif-com-animated-gif-maker-1.gif


Apart from the tropical zones, looks like some of the subtropical areas are warmer in 2024.


I mean, what doesn’t look warmer? :lol:
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models) / C35 model up

#283 Postby LemieT » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:15 pm

Something came to mind a while ago that I thought might be worth refreshing. Does anyone remember last year's discussion on how due to the relative temperatures of each basin NATL/EPAC that although the El Nino would be strong, its relative effect would be less since the NATL was so warm? 2023 is now a known commodity and we ended up with a high activity season in the face of a strong El Nino.

Now extrapolate that thought to this year. Suppose we see a warm neutral ENSO at peak season but NATL SSTs are even higher than last year. Would the net effect be as though there is a cool neutral or even weak La Nina in place? Perhaps even if the transition were to fail in some way, we might still have a sort of La Nina effect due to the SST differential.

Just a thought...
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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#284 Postby SFLcane » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:00 am

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#285 Postby SFLcane » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:17 am

I see some comparing to 2010 I mean maybe but in my opinion climate models have certainly improved that was almost 15 yrs ago lol. For now this takes us into July in what certainly looks like strong ridging. Still very early but the pieces to the puzzle continue to look very ominous. Having trouble posting jpg or gif images this morning here.

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#286 Postby SFLcane » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:36 am

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#287 Postby cycloneye » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:41 am

SFLcane wrote:I see some comparing to 2010 I mean maybe but in my opinion climate models have certainly improved that was almost 15 yrs ago lol. For now this takes us into July in what certainly looks like strong ridging. Still very early but the pieces to the puzzle continue to look very ominous. Having trouble posting jpg or gif images this morning here.

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#288 Postby Category5Kaiju » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:06 am

Those screaming precipitation anomalies in the Caribbean are really something. I occasionally have to wonder if this might be the first year since 2007 that we see a bona fide Caribbean cruiser. We haven’t had one for a while, so I’d also have to imagine we are overdue for one
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#289 Postby cycloneye » Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:56 pm

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#290 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:50 pm

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#291 Postby cycloneye » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:50 pm

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#292 Postby weeniepatrol » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:46 pm

Very very normal stuff here

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#293 Postby SFLcane » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:34 pm

Don't count on much cooling... :onfire:

 https://x.com/catinsight/status/1757088248268980384


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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#294 Postby cycloneye » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:03 pm

All the indicatoirs continue to lead to a very active 2024 season, but is silll early and things can change, but this is what we have as of Febuary 12.

 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1757087191614783969




 https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1757089242604302687




 https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1757091774080635012


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#295 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:25 pm

cycloneye wrote:All the indicatoirs continue to lead to a very active 2024 season, but is silll early and things can change, but this is what we have as of Febuary 12.

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1757087191614783969

https://twitter.com/AndyHazelton/status/1757089242604302687

https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1757091774080635012

WAM needs to be taken into account as well which would make a case for this look to at least maintain itself during the hurricane season, seeing as it has the ability to naturally relax trades on its own without the aid of -NAO. Back in '07 and even 2010 the WAM phase wasn't as active as it is now.
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#297 Postby cycloneye » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:30 pm

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#298 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:20 pm

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#299 Postby cycloneye » Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:25 pm

Look at the 15 day change in North Atlantic and Pacific. El Niño is fading and the sst'as in MDR are cooking real good both at OISST and Coral Reef graphics.

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Re: 2024 Indicators: SST's, MSLP, Shear, SAL, Steering, Instability, (Day 16+ Climate Models)

#300 Postby SFLcane » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:20 pm

cycloneye wrote:Look at the 15 day change in North Atlantic and Pacific. El Niño is fading and the sst'as in MDR are cooking real good both at OISST and Coral Reef graphics.

https://i.imgur.com/ZRfg2Zl.png

https://i.imgur.com/B5EVSpI.png


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