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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#101 Postby snownado » Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:23 am

So for those who didn't hear, there's a lot of hand wringling right now over a EF-1 tornado that struck a Detroit suburb the other day and was responsible for the death of a 2 year old.

Joe Public is being highly critical of the Meteorologists that day because the NWS office in Detroit did not issue a Tornado Warning (actually, I'm not even certain a Severe Thunderstorm Warning was issued for the specific cell).

None the less though, the blame game aside, it's a sad but prudent reminder that people should not take severe t'storm predictions lightly, as the environment will be conducive to rapidly evolving conditions at a mesoscale level that even Meteorologists may not always be able to proactively warn the public about.

Supposedly, the family at the time the storms hit was asleep, even though it was in the middle of the afternoon.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#102 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jun 07, 2024 12:59 pm

Something in the Western Gulf out beyond day 7?
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#103 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jun 07, 2024 2:09 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Something in the Western Gulf out beyond day 7?


It’s looking possible, for sure. I noticed an uptick on the 12z GEFS, and the steering pattern looks favorable for something in the Western Gulf during that time period.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#104 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 07, 2024 10:05 pm

The GEFS definitely says hurricane season is about to wake up

In other news our hottest day of the year tomorrow. How exciting is that :roll:
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#105 Postby snownado » Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:38 am

N. TX looks to have one more opportunity at NW flow convection / cloud debris to keep temps under check next week before the death ridge firmly locks in.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#106 Postby snownado » Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:41 am

Brent wrote:The GEFS definitely says hurricane season is about to wake up

In other news our hottest day of the year tomorrow. How exciting is that :roll:


I mean, that's a typical GEFS bias. I would take it with a huge grain of salt, as the pattern isn't all that favorable for development.

They and the OP model predicted 32 of the 8 tropical systems that hit the US last year...
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#107 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:39 am

Get as much clouds and rain in as you can before the faucet shuts off. Throes of summer.

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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#108 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Jun 08, 2024 1:31 pm

Ntxw wrote:Get as much clouds and rain in as you can before the faucet shuts off. Throes of summer.

https://i.imgur.com/Zs1XZx5.png

Hopefully that thing meanders and doesn't get stuck over one place.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#109 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Jun 08, 2024 2:33 pm

gpsnowman wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Get as much clouds and rain in as you can before the faucet shuts off. Throes of summer.

https://i.imgur.com/Zs1XZx5.png

Hopefully that thing meanders and doesn't get stuck over one place.


Euro EPS keeps temps about normal across DFW and shows several rain chances.

The 12z Euro is a broken record wth rainfall over the same areas.

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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#110 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Jun 08, 2024 5:44 pm

I’m not really concerned about any serious heat building across the state anytime soon. I’d say normal to slightly above normal temps are in the cards over the next couple weeks, but nothing crazy. Then next weekend we’ll have to watch the western Gulf for at least some increased moisture.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#111 Postby mmmmsnouts » Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:27 pm

snownado wrote:Joe Public is being highly critical of the Meteorologists that day because the NWS office in Detroit did not issue a Tornado Warning (actually, I'm not even certain a Severe Thunderstorm Warning was issued for the specific cell).

None the less though, the blame game aside, it's a sad but prudent reminder that people should not take severe t'storm predictions lightly, as the environment will be conducive to rapidly evolving conditions at a mesoscale level that even Meteorologists may not always be able to proactively warn the public about.


This is sort of what I was getting at when I remarked at how often NWS Fort Worth has had to issue storm warnings this season when there was no watch on the books. Whatever models are being used to help forecast might be underestimating the dynamics in our changing climate, or they just aren't up to snuff at all. How many times did you read the forecaster discussions the last few weeks in this NW flow pattern, and they boiled down to "the models have no clue, check back later"? I could get a Magic 8 Ball to tell me that.

At the same time, broad brushing alerts like the old days would give people warning fatigue and hurt confidence in the other direction. It's a tough situation but right now I think it's putting a little too much on the general public to properly diagnose the possibilities.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#112 Postby txtwister78 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:47 pm

Well would you look at that...storms actually surviving a trip through the Hill Country and moving into San Antonio. Bring on the rain.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#113 Postby txtwister78 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:23 pm

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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#114 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:56 am

Another complex of showers and thunderstorms is currently moving across areas that have largely missed out the past several months. So good to see!
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#115 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:02 am

Widespread rainfall amounts of 2-3 inches with a few embedded pockets of 4 inches has fallen across southwest, west and northwest sections of SA in the last 12 hours. Big cutoff as you move into central and especially eastern areas which haven't been as fortunate; however, the good news is the heaviest rain has fallen across the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone.

Much needed with perhaps one more opportunity later this evening or overnight if the atmosphere can recover enough.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#116 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:39 am

txtwister78 wrote:Widespread rainfall amounts of 2-3 inches with a few embedded pockets of 4 inches has fallen across southwest, west and northwest sections of SA in the last 12 hours. Big cutoff as you move into central and especially eastern areas which haven't been as fortunate; however, the good news is the heaviest rain has fallen across the Edwards Aquifer Recharge Zone.

Much needed with perhaps one more opportunity later this evening or overnight if the atmosphere can recover enough.


That's awesome! The Edwards Plateau, Rio Grande Plains and southern Hill Country have largely missed out on the Spring rains, hence the worst drought areas and meager groundwater/lake levels (i.e., Travis and Canyon). Nice to see it raining heavily in areas where it is needed most, for a change.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#117 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:49 pm

I see the 12z gfs is delivering on the fantasyland solutions
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#118 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:55 pm

Things seems to be unchanged. Western Texas, Rio Grande will be the areas of greatest heat. Seasonably hot, with some chances in the easter part of the Texas. Surge of Gulf moisture will have a higher risk of heavy precip in coastal Texas late in the period, all highlighted by CPC risks. Fits the 500h pattern.
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Re: Texas Summer 2024

#119 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:44 pm

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