ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#761 Postby StPeteMike » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:50 am

I would not be surprised to have a Cat 5 by tomorrow morning. Nothing is in the way to prevent this small but mighty girl from exploding in strength until getting closer to south of Hispaniola.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#762 Postby Weatherwatcher2018 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:52 am

At this point do you think warnings can be lifted in Barbados. It seems to be even further south and no great impact to us
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#763 Postby aspen » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:53 am

StPeteMike wrote:I would not be surprised to have a Cat 5 by tomorrow morning. Nothing is in the way to prevent this small but mighty girl from exploding in strength until getting closer to south of Hispaniola.

It could very easily undergo an EWRC anytime within the next 12-18 hours.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#764 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:55 am

Completely unprecedented territory here for both June and July.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#765 Postby RT23 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:56 am

Weatherwatcher2018 wrote:At this point do you think warnings can be lifted in Barbados. It seems to be even further south and no great impact to us


Absolutely not. We will have sustained winds of 70 mph with gust. A y shift in the track can bring this closer.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#766 Postby Teban54 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:57 am

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#767 Postby Sailingtime » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:59 am

Weatherwatcher2018 wrote:At this point do you think warnings can be lifted in Barbados. It seems to be even further south and no great impact to us



Barbados will feel affects of Beryl even if it moves further South than was forecast. A wobble Northward can make a lot of difference. This is why the watches and warnings remain in effect until the storm passes your longitude.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#768 Postby Beef Stew » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:00 am

Question for someone who knows climo very well (I'm sure Larry could chime in here)- prior to Beryl breaking the record today, what was the earliest date of a category 4 hurricane east of the Windward Islands? I was thinking Allen in early August, but I'm not sure.

And to further put Beryl in perspective- what's the date of the (former) earliest category 4 in the MDR to form east of 55W?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#769 Postby Xyls » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:05 am

Beef Stew wrote:Question for someone who knows climo very well (I'm sure Larry could chime in here)- prior to Beryl breaking the record today, what was the earliest date of a category 4 hurricane east of the Windward Islands? I was thinking Allen in early August, but I'm not sure.

And to further put Beryl in perspective- what's the date of the (former) earliest category 4 in the MDR to form east of 55W?


Re: Allen pretty sure it hit the Windwards as a Cat 3 so it wasn't the earliest to hit the Windwards as Cat 4 because it didn't manage to achieve that to begin with.

Edit: So if we are including the definition of the Windward Islands per Wikipedia which is Dominica through Grenada. There actually is only 1 hurricane that I can find that has ever actually hit these islands as a Category 4 or higher (if we are excluding the 1780 Great Atlantic Hurricane which isn't in the official records as they began in 1851 but probably was in that range when it hit that area but that was in October so still not a contender) and that is Maria in 2017. So I guess that's your answer.

As far as east Category 4 goes I think it is the 1899 San Ciriaco hurricane which got Cat 4 east of the Windwards on August 7? But didn't directly impact those and instead hit the Leewards.

Edit 2: Forgot about David in 1979 which would've made landfall on Dominica as a Cat 4 on August 29, 1979. So that is the correct answer for earliest strike on the Windwards not Maria.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#770 Postby TheWisestofAll » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:06 am

alan1961 wrote:Some dry air in its path

[url]https://i.ibb.co/gPNR4ZX/Screen-Hunter-08-Jun-30-16-17.gif [/url]

that band running before the core should protect it from the dry air.

[url]https://i.ibb.co/t2JcZH1/Satellite-No-Radar-20240630-T161500-0100.jpg [/url]

afaik it's rare for dry air to penetrate a core once it's become established as such.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#771 Postby 3090 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:07 am

alan1961 wrote:Some dry air in its path

[url]https://i.ibb.co/gPNR4ZX/Screen-Hunter-08-Jun-30-16-17.gif [/url]

that band running before the core should protect it from the dry air.

[url]https://i.ibb.co/t2JcZH1/Satellite-No-Radar-20240630-T161500-0100.jpg [/url]



Beryl has coughed out any and all dry air that she has recently ingested on her way to CAT 4 status. To reach CAT 4 and is such a remarkable amount of short time everything needs to go perfect. And it has. I don’t see that small area of dry air being an issue.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#772 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:11 am

You know what storm this reminds me of? Hurricane Ivan 2004.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#773 Postby Weatherwatcher2018 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:12 am

Sailingtime wrote:
Weatherwatcher2018 wrote:At this point do you think warnings can be lifted in Barbados. It seems to be even further south and no great impact to us



Barbados will feel affects of Beryl even if it moves further South than was forecast. A wobble Northward can make a lot of difference. This is why the watches and warnings remain in effect until the storm passes your longitude.




I was thinking we would be spared
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#774 Postby JaxGator » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:18 am

tolakram wrote:latest
https://i.imgur.com/updGd5Y.png


Looks like the stadium effect in the eye.
Ouch.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#775 Postby GCANE » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:20 am

Core is drying out.
Look for an outer eyewall later this afternoon or early evening.
IMHO Beryl is near peak intensity.
Very likely no Cat 5.
She will be a lot bigger after the upcoming EWRC gets finished maybe sometime tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#776 Postby TheAustinMan » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:20 am

Beef Stew wrote:Question for someone who knows climo very well (I'm sure Larry could chime in here)- prior to Beryl breaking the record today, what was the earliest date of a category 4 hurricane east of the Windward Islands? I was thinking Allen in early August, but I'm not sure.

And to further put Beryl in perspective- what's the date of the (former) earliest category 4 in the MDR to form east of 55W?


I believe that record was held by the 1899 San Ciriaco hurricane, which is listed as reaching Cat 4 just east of Guadeloupe on... August 7.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#777 Postby Javlin » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:23 am

Sciencerocks wrote:You know what storm this reminds me of? Hurricane Ivan 2004.

Ivan was a low tracker.

https://i.postimg.cc/KY7yWmT6/ivan.jpg
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#778 Postby zzzh » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:25 am

The track looks more like Allen imo.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#779 Postby TheBurn » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:34 am

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#780 Postby Keldeo1997 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:34 am

Image That Feeder band is massive and the Eyewall is very strong
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