ATL: BERYL - Models

[3090]

So far out yet almost a week away. Everyone from fort myers to brownsville needs to keep tabs on this. I dont trust the models this far out they move overtime. We are starting to show a classic northward hook in some of the models where we didnt see that at all.

Timing will be everything

Pretty darn confident that Florida has ZERO chance of seeing anything of Beryl!

I honestly dont think anyone in the US will see anything of Beryl but it’s still something to monitor, especially South Texas. This smells like a Gilbert track…maybe slightly south of that…but you never know. Plus you could have a train of storms forming behind this and those could go more into the Gulf.

I will have a better feeling by about tomorrow evening.

[Edwards Limestone]

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[tolakram]

We don't require disclaimers anymore. All I can say is this.

If you are convinced it might go to X and you live in X you might be biased. Everyone in the zone should be prepared at the start of the season. If someone want's to say it's going to X that's fine, no issue, just leave it as your opinion.

[Coolcruiseman]

So far out yet almost a week away. Everyone from fort myers to brownsville needs to keep tabs on this. I dont trust the models this far out they move overtime. We are starting to show a classic northward hook in some of the models where we didnt see that at all.

Timing will be everything

Pretty darn confident that Florida has ZERO chance of seeing anything of Beryl!

Until we’re within 5 days my amateur view is the entire GOM is at play. Seems a few days ago the models weren’t indicating a possible threat to TX. Yet with the latest model runs here we are.

[BIFF_THE_UNRULY]

We don't require disclaimers anymore. All I can say is this.

If you are convinced it might go to X and you live in X you might be biased. Everyone in the zone should be prepared at the start of the season. If someone want's to say it's going to X that's fine, no issue, just leave it as your opinion.

My point was that zones change..its really far out yet.

Im from tampa and ive been lurking here for 20 years. I dont rule anything out forecast wise till the storm in 80 hours out. Then the cone is accurate

[Wampadawg]

We don't require disclaimers anymore. All I can say is this.

If you are convinced it might go to X and you live in X you might be biased. Everyone in the zone should be prepared at the start of the season. If someone want's to say it's going to X that's fine, no issue, just leave it as your opinion.

Very well said! Preach

[utweather]

So far out yet almost a week away. Everyone from fort myers to brownsville needs to keep tabs on this. I dont trust the models this far out they move overtime. We are starting to show a classic northward hook in some of the models where we didnt see that at all.

Timing will be everything

Pretty darn confident that Florida has ZERO chance of seeing anything of Beryl!

I honestly dont think anyone in the US will see anything of Beryl but it’s still something to monitor, especially South Texas. This smells like a Gilbert track…maybe slightly south of that…but you never know. Plus you could have a train of storms forming behind this and those could go more into the Gulf.

Yeah looks like train track to the Bay of Campeche is still there.

[DukeMu]

We're a long, long way off - 8 days...but everyone in the Western Gulf should keep an eye out.

[Teban54]

Better late than never...

12z GFS

• Init 982 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 978 mb
• Starts weakening south of DR/Haiti border, to 991 mb before hitting SW Jamaica
• Mostly maintains ~999 mb until landfall in Yucatan
• Remains a weak TS in the GoM, landfall 1001 mb at Texas/Mexico border

12z ECMWF

• Init 996 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 983 mb
• Intensifies past WI, then maintains 970 +/- 5 until clipping SW Jamaica at 974 mb
• Fluctuates in Western Caribbean before landfalling just north of Yucatan/Belize border at 991 mb
• Stays in the 990s in the BoC, landfalls well within Mexico border at 989 mb

12z CMC

• Init 1003 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 993 mb
• In the lower 990s east of Hispaniola and upper 990s west of there, landfall in NE Jamaica
• Reintensifies slightly to 990 mb when it landfalls in the NE corner of Yucatan (Cancun)
• Intensifies to 982 mb when landfalling in Texas, between Matagorda Bay and Galveston

12z ICON

• Init 1005 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 989 mb
• Intensifies to the 970s soon after, and stays there until landfall in SW Jamaica at 973 mb
• Jamaica knocks it down to 986 mb, but recovers to 973 mb when landfalling in Yucatan (Cozumel)
• Enters GoM at 989 mb, then continues bombing out to 955 mb peak while just offshore Galveston

12z HWRF

• Init 970 mb, 109 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 961 mb, 113 kt (peaks at 959.8 just prior)
• Keeps intensifying to 946 mb, 122 kt while on track to Jamaica; landfalls and then treks through the island
• Resumes deepening past Jamaica to 944 mb, but without wind speed increases (stays as Cat 3)
• Run ends at 949 mb, 103 kt just past Yucatan Channel without landfall

12z HMON

• Init 964 mb, 112 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 955 mb, 112 kt (peaks at 949/123 earlier)
• Slightly weakens to 960s until south of Haiti, then to 972 while missing Jamaica to the south
• Gets torn apart in Western Caribbean, landfalls in Yucatan at 993 mb, 52 kt
• Run ends at 1004 mb about to exit Yucatan

12z HAFS-A

• Init 967 mb, 94 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 968 mb, 108 kt
• Stays at 970 +/- 3 (winds borderline Cat 2/3) until south of DR/Haiti border, then weakens to 983 mb, 79 kt when landfalling in eastern Jamaica and trekking through the island
• Recovers slightly from 992 mb to 983 mb, 65 kt while clipping NE Yucatan
• Run ends at 989 mb, 54 kt back over water

12z HAFS-B

• Init 974 mb, 85 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 976 mb, 95 kt
• Mostly stays in the lower 970s (winds borderline Cat 2/3) until south of DR/Haiti border, then weakens to 990 mb, 75 kt when safely south of Jamaica
• Bombs out in the Western Caribbean to 946 mb, 109 kt when landfalling near the Yucatan/Belize border
• Run ends at 993 mb, 39 kt inland, about to emerge into BoC

[StormPyrate]

Better late than never...

12z GFS

• Init 982 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 978 mb
• Starts weakening south of DR/Haiti border, to 991 mb before hitting SW Jamaica
• Mostly maintains ~999 mb until landfall in Yucatan
• Remains a weak TS in the GoM, landfall 1001 mb at Texas/Mexico border

12z ECMWF

• Init 996 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 983 mb
• Intensifies past WI, then maintains 970 +/- 5 until clipping SW Jamaica at 974 mb
• Fluctuates in Western Caribbean before landfalling just north of Yucatan/Belize border at 991 mb
• Stays in the 990s in the BoC, landfalls well within Mexico border at 989 mb

12z CMC

• Init 1003 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 993 mb
• In the lower 990s east of Hispaniola and upper 990s west of there, landfall in NE Jamaica
• Reintensifies slightly to 990 mb when it landfalls in the NE corner of Yucatan (Cancun)
• Intensifies to 982 mb when landfalling in Texas, between Matagorda Bay and Galveston

12z ICON

• Init 1005 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 989 mb
• Intensifies to the 970s soon after, and stays there until landfall in SW Jamaica at 973 mb
• Jamaica knocks it down to 986 mb, but recovers to 973 mb when landfalling in Yucatan (Cozumel)
• Enters GoM at 989 mb, then continues bombing out to 955 mb peak while just offshore Galveston

12z HWRF

• Init 970 mb, 109 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 961 mb, 113 kt (peaks at 959.8 just prior)
• Keeps intensifying to 946 mb, 122 kt while on track to Jamaica; landfalls and then treks through the island
• Resumes deepening past Jamaica to 944 mb, but without wind speed increases (stays as Cat 3)
• Run ends at 949 mb, 103 kt just past Yucatan Channel without landfall

12z HMON

• Init 964 mb, 112 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 955 mb, 112 kt (peaks at 949/123 earlier)
• Slightly weakens to 960s until south of Haiti, then to 972 while missing Jamaica to the south
• Gets torn apart in Western Caribbean, landfalls in Yucatan at 993 mb, 52 kt
• Run ends at 1004 mb about to exit Yucatan

12z HAFS-A

• Init 967 mb, 94 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 968 mb, 108 kt
• Stays at 970 +/- 3 (winds borderline Cat 2/3) until south of DR/Haiti border, then weakens to 983 mb, 79 kt when landfalling in eastern Jamaica and trekking through the island
• Recovers slightly from 992 mb to 983 mb, 65 kt while clipping NE Yucatan
• Run ends at 989 mb, 54 kt back over water

12z HAFS-B

• Init 974 mb, 85 kt
• Windward Islands landfall 976 mb, 95 kt
• Mostly stays in the lower 970s (winds borderline Cat 2/3) until south of DR/Haiti border, then weakens to 990 mb, 75 kt when safely south of Jamaica
• Bombs out in the Western Caribbean to 946 mb, 109 kt when landfalling near the Yucatan/Belize border
• Run ends at 993 mb, 39 kt inland, about to emerge into BoC

Nice Recap Thank You!!

[HurryKane]

Better late than never...

12z GFS

• Init 982 mb
• Windward Islands landfall 978 mb
• Starts weakening south of DR/Haiti border, to 991 mb before hitting SW Jamaica
• Mostly maintains ~999 mb until landfall in Yucatan
• Remains a weak TS in the GoM, landfall 1001 mb at Texas/Mexico border

Nice Recap Thank You!!

Agree! These are very helpful!

[txag2005]

Does anybody know where the 18Z ICON ends up making landfall? The one on Tropical Tidbits seems to only go out to 120 hours.

[Woofde]

18z ICON at 120 hours. Initialized too weak, but that's to be expected with how small Beyrl is. I have a feeling many of the models are going to be wildly off due to the compact nature of Beryl.

[LAF92]

Does anybody know where the 18Z ICON ends up making landfall? The one on Tropical Tidbits seems to only go out to 120 hours.

I think the 18z and 6z ICON runs only go out to 120 hours

[DukeMu]

An illustration of how difficult the precision of this small, power storm is this far out.

[Woofde]

Does anybody know where the 18Z ICON ends up making landfall? The one on Tropical Tidbits seems to only go out to 120 hours.

6z and 18z runs for the ICON only run to hour 120, 0z and 12z run out to hour 180.

[Frank P]

18Z GFS running and initializes it at 979mb

[Frank P]

GFS at 48 hours a bump north

[txag2005]

Does anybody know where the 18Z ICON ends up making landfall? The one on Tropical Tidbits seems to only go out to 120 hours.

I think the 18z and 6z ICON runs only go out to 120 hours

Oh ok, that would make sense. Thanks!

[Frank P]

72 hours landfall on east side of Jamaica at 991 mb