2024 Cyclone Retirements (Breaking ATLC: Beryl, Helene, Milton; EPAC: John)

[Torino]

Brenda/Brittany/Bridget incoming in 2030, clearly.

I think the UK could file a complaint if they chose Brittany. Idk, just like France and Frances...
Just hope they choose the replacement wisely, as it'll probably stay with us for a long time...

There's no Hispanic or French B name on the lists, so this could be an opportunity to include one...like Bella, Brigitte, Bettina, etc...or even Brenda, which is kinda common everywhere.

[Category5Kaiju]

Brenda/Brittany/Bridget incoming in 2030, clearly.

I think the UK could file a complaint if they chose Brittany. Idk, just like France and Frances...
Just hope they choose the replacement wisely, as it'll probably stay with us for a long time...

There's no Hispanic or French B name on the lists, so this could be an opportunity to include one...like Bella, Brigitte, Bettina, etc...or even Brenda, which is kinda common everywhere.

I think Bianca sounds like a good replacement should they go this route too.

[Teban54]

Brenda/Brittany/Bridget incoming in 2030, clearly.

I think the UK could file a complaint if they chose Brittany. Idk, just like France and Frances...
Just hope they choose the replacement wisely, as it'll probably stay with us for a long time...

There's no Hispanic or French B name on the lists, so this could be an opportunity to include one...like Bella, Brigitte, Bettina, etc...or even Brenda, which is kinda common everywhere.

I think Bianca sounds like a good replacement should they go this route too.

Wouldn't Bianca be too similar to Blanca from EPAC though?

(Sure, more similar ATL-EPAC name pairs have happened before, but that doesn't justify having more of them.)

[xtyphooncyclonex]

Brenda is my safest bet for Beryl

[Xyls]

My picks for Beryl would be either Bobbi or Bryna. I think this name should be a bit more unique to break-up the drudgery that is this list of boring names, considering this is pretty much the only very interesting name on this list.

[NotSparta]

Perhaps, just like Emily, Beryl is inexplicably not retired

[Category5Kaiju]

Brenda/Brittany/Bridget incoming in 2030, clearly.

I think the UK could file a complaint if they chose Brittany. Idk, just like France and Frances...
Just hope they choose the replacement wisely, as it'll probably stay with us for a long time...

There's no Hispanic or French B name on the lists, so this could be an opportunity to include one...like Bella, Brigitte, Bettina, etc...or even Brenda, which is kinda common everywhere.

I mean, I feel like it's one thing for the name to be literally a country's name (Like EPAC's Israel or Frances as you mentioned), yet at the same time, we have Martin on List 2, and St. Martin is an island in the Atlantic that is frequented by hurricanes?

[Hypercane_Kyle]

Yeah Beryl's gone next year; damage alone in the Windward islands justifies retirement.

[Teban54]

Perhaps, just like Emily, Beryl is inexplicably not retired

I had given it some serious consideration earlier, in part because of Idalia escaping retirement last year. But even its impacts on Carriacou alone definitely justifies it.

A catastrophe modeler is expecting $1-1.5 billion in insured losses from Beryl in the Windward Islands. That's basically Grenada's annual GDP ($1.215 billion in 2023). Carriacou's population seems to be about 6k to 9k from what I can find, which is on the scale of Perry, FL where Idalia hit, but that's still about 5-8% of Grenada's entire population -- a sizable fraction.

Clearly, Beryl is far more notable to the nation of Grenada than Emily was to them (Cat 1 hit with $110 million damage) and to Mexico.

[Kazmit]

Perhaps, just like Emily, Beryl is inexplicably not retired

I had given it some serious consideration earlier, in part because of Idalia escaping retirement last year. But even its impacts on Carriacou alone definitely justifies it.

A catastrophe modeler is expecting $1-1.5 billion in insured losses from Beryl in the Windward Islands. That's basically Grenada's annual GDP ($1.215 billion in 2023). Carriacou's population seems to be about 6k to 9k from what I can find, which is on the scale of Perry, FL where Idalia hit, but that's still about 5-8% of Grenada's entire population -- a sizable fraction.

Clearly, Beryl is far more notable to the nation of Grenada than Emily was to them (Cat 1 hit with $110 million damage) and to Mexico.

I think Jamaica will be the nail in the coffin for Beryl.

[CrazyC83]

I'd go with Bridget or Bethany as a replacement name. Or, if we want to mix up the languages, some choices are Belen, Brigitte or Blanche, as List 4 is very English-heavy.

Additionally, Beryl would be the first "original" name to be retired since 2018. In the ensuing years, all retired names were either second (or third, in the case of Ian) generation names or Greek letters.

[SconnieCane]

Yeah Beryl's gone next year; damage alone in the Windward islands justifies retirement.

Even if what it did to Carriacou somehow wasn't enough (which it certainly ought to be); Beryl sure seems to want to pull an Irma with multiple high-impact landfalls/direct hits. Jamaica, Yucatan, and somewhere on the Mexico or US Gulf coast all still to go.

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

As I understand it, when a nation requests that a name be retired, they include in the request three suggested replacement names, and the committee almost surely will choose one of those as the replacement.
The request to retire Beryl will most likely come from Grenada or St. Vincent & the Grenadines. So the suggested replacements will be names that people in those countries are familiar with. From sites which claim to list the most common given names used in those nations (though no age range is given), the following "B" names for women which are possible replacements (not presently on the Atlantic or East Pacific lists or retired from the Atlantic) are found:

Bernadette, Bernice, Bernadine, Brenda, Beverly, Bridget, Betty, Belinda, Bethel

These names may be mostly from past generations. I have found references to young women in these countries today named Bianca and Blossom.

At this moment my best guess would be that a replacement for Beryl would be one of those eleven names.

[Category5Kaiju]

As I understand it, when a nation requests that a name be retired, they include in the request three suggested replacement names, and the committee almost surely will choose one of those as the replacement.
The request to retire Beryl will most likely come from Grenada or St. Vincent & the Grenadines. So the suggested replacements will be names that people in those countries are familiar with. From sites which claim to list the most common given names used in those nations (though no age range is given), the following "B" names for women which are possible replacements (not presently on the Atlantic or East Pacific lists or retired from the Atlantic) are found:

Bernadette, Bernice, Bernadine, Brenda, Beverly, Bridget, Betty, Belinda, Bethel

These names may be mostly from past generations. I have found references to young women in these countries today named Bianca and Blossom.

At this moment my best guess would be that a replacement for Beryl would be one of those eleven names.

Wow, "Brenda" appears pretty frequently across these sites (and I confirmed that with ChatGPT as well). If I had to bet one name out of all those, I wouldn't be shocked if it is this name (seems to be popular in old and new generations, fits the relatively common NHC pattern of replacing names with names having the same number of syllables)

[Torino]

As I understand it, when a nation requests that a name be retired, they include in the request three suggested replacement names, and the committee almost surely will choose one of those as the replacement.
The request to retire Beryl will most likely come from Grenada or St. Vincent & the Grenadines. So the suggested replacements will be names that people in those countries are familiar with.

I believe that's not mandatory. For example, Costa Rica requested Nate's retirement, however the replacement name chosen was Nigel, which is not Hispanic at all.

[Teban54]

As I understand it, when a nation requests that a name be retired, they include in the request three suggested replacement names, and the committee almost surely will choose one of those as the replacement.
The request to retire Beryl will most likely come from Grenada or St. Vincent & the Grenadines. So the suggested replacements will be names that people in those countries are familiar with.

I believe that's not mandatory. For example, Costa Rica requested Nate's retirement, however the replacement name chosen was Nigel, which is not Hispanic at all.

I have not looked through the 2017 archives to see if Nigel was one of the names that Costa Rica suggested, but I do recall many cases before where the country requesting requirement is the one drafting a short list of candidate names.

These candidates don't always need to reflect the demographics of that country. Juan 2003 was retired due to impacts to Atlantic Canada, yet they voluntarily chose another Spanish name (Joaquin) out of kindness in order to preserve a "Spanish spot" on the list.

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

As I understand it, when a nation requests that a name be retired, they include in the request three suggested replacement names, and the committee almost surely will choose one of those as the replacement.
The request to retire Beryl will most likely come from Grenada or St. Vincent & the Grenadines. So the suggested replacements will be names that people in those countries are familiar with.

I believe that's not mandatory. For example, Costa Rica requested Nate's retirement, however the replacement name chosen was Nigel, which is not Hispanic at all.

Just because Costa Rica is a "Hispanic" country doesn't mean that the three names they suggested have to be of "Spanish" origin. There are many names commonly used in Latin American cultures which do not have a Spanish origin, and in Costa Rica there are a significant number of people in the Atlantic coastal province of Limon who are descended from immigrants from the English speaking Caribbean and who still speak English or a Creole version of it as their home language. Plus most people in Costa Rica speak English as their second language.

Here are links to some men who seem to be Costa Ricans who are named Nigel:

https://www.facebook.com/nigel.brenes
https://www.facebook.com/nigel.prado.1/ ... AzodU&_rdr
https://www.facebook.com/nigel.rodriguez.9/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nigel-c-salazar-a0919621b/

[Category5Kaiju]

Ngl it'd be kind of funny if Brittany replaced Beryl. Assuming Francine doesn't end up getting retired, we'll have Brittany and Francine on the same naming list.

[ScottNAtlanta]

THIS would be funny

[ScottNAtlanta]

I'm guessing Brenda would be out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Brenda_(1973)