ATL: BERYL - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2421 Postby Bimms » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:34 pm

Pipelines182 wrote:
Bimms wrote:I don't think it's just a wobble, I didn't think it's going south of Cozumel. Unless she really takes a sharp south turn, she's going to skirt the tip of the Yucatan, almost shooting the gap. I've been saying this for a while now. I'm no meteorologist, but with the way this storm has been behaving, it's a safe bet to go against the models and traditional models.


The models have been spot on with the track and even if they hadn’t, “going with your gut” is always going to be less accurate.


Guess we will see. It's exciting to watch, but I'm still going to stick with what I said. Brushes the tip of the Yucatan and then takes a more northerly track.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2422 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:35 pm

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2423 Postby hurricane2025 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:37 pm

I like 57 but he’s all euro guy nothing wrong with that but can’t always follow euro
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2424 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:37 pm

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#2425 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:41 pm

Pipelines182 wrote:
Bimms wrote:I don't think it's just a wobble, I didn't think it's going south of Cozumel. Unless she really takes a sharp south turn, she's going to skirt the tip of the Yucatan, almost shooting the gap. I've been saying this for a while now. I'm no meteorologist, but with the way this storm has been behaving, it's a safe bet to go against the models and traditional models.


The models have been spot on with the track and even if they hadn’t, “going with your gut” is always going to be less accurate.
Models struggled as a whole and it continues, nhc has been good on track as always smoothing out the many bumps this time, intensity is mysterious and even more after beryl and it has the nhc on the backfoot, Hazleton tweeted about it earlier. Who knows how it plays out the next 4 months, beryl could be a one off but I doubt it.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2426 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:47 pm

Beryl seems very unlikely to make landfall north of Cozumel. My personal thought is that it will just clip the southern tip of the island, or go just south of it.

It should be noted that even the ICON runs yesterday that took Beryl up to Galveston or the TX/LA border did not make Yucatan landfall north of Cozumel, so that would be a wild deviation I’ve seen no evidence for. It remains the northern outlier among the deterministic models, and it remains to be seen if or how much it is “out to lunch”.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2427 Postby Teban54 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:48 pm

I know Beryl's countless other eyewall clearing attempts earlier didn't stop its weakening, but this one is definitely the healthiest I've seen in days.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2428 Postby Kludge » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:49 pm

TomballEd wrote:
Bimms wrote:I don't think it's just a wobble, I didn't think it's going south of Cozumel. Unless she really takes a sharp south turn, she's going to skirt the tip of the Yucatan, almost shooting the gap. I've been saying this for a while now. I'm no meteorologist, but with the way this storm has been behaving, it's a safe bet to go against the models and traditional models.


It may just be a wobble, but I think I see the turn W on Caymans radar and satellite. In reading WxMan57 for almost 20 years, he isn't wrong very often.

Storm2k has archives going back through the years, which include pro met member predictions. I often find them very entertaining.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2429 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:51 pm

18z Best Track:

AL, 02, 2024070418, , BEST, 0, 193N, 835W, 95, 974, HU
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2430 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:52 pm

Teban54 wrote:I know Beryl's countless other eyewall clearing attempts earlier didn't stop its weakening, but this one is definitely the healthiest I've seen in days.
https://i.postimg.cc/KYCqjftn/0966042d-a69e-459b-9aa2-856b8d144fba.jpg

Agreed. The entire eye is becoming visible on vis satellite at the moment, only some translucent upper level clouds remaining now
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2431 Postby AtlanticWind » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:54 pm

The NHC has been spot on with the path of this storm since it’s inception

The only real question has been when Beryl entered the SW gulf and whether
It would continue Wnw or turn more northwest toward south Texas.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2432 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:57 pm

Teban54 wrote:I know Beryl's countless other eyewall clearing attempts earlier didn't stop its weakening, but this one is definitely the healthiest I've seen in days.
https://i.postimg.cc/KYCqjftn/0966042d-a69e-459b-9aa2-856b8d144fba.jpg

This is more of a sign of organization instead of a sign of strengthening, right?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2433 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:59 pm

UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:
LadyBug72 wrote:
kevco wrote:

Barely brushes tip of Yucatán, slows forward motion then begins NNW motion tonite and early tomorrow, landfall Tx/ La border Monday evening Tuesday morning.


I don’t see this happening and I have not seen one pro met even remotely mention this scenario.

Agreed, TX/LA border is a HUGE stretch. I’d say final landfall is anywhere between the mouth of Rio Grande and Carboneras, Tamaulipas. Strength is the only thing in question.


I feel fairly confident this won’t be a MX landfall.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2434 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:00 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:
LadyBug72 wrote:
I don’t see this happening and I have not seen one pro met even remotely mention this scenario.

Agreed, TX/LA border is a HUGE stretch. I’d say final landfall is anywhere between the mouth of Rio Grande and Carboneras, Tamaulipas. Strength is the only thing in question.


I feel fairly confident this won’t be a MX landfall.


Well it's definitely going to hit Yucatán...
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2435 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:01 pm

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
UTSARoadrunner4 wrote:Agreed, TX/LA border is a HUGE stretch. I’d say final landfall is anywhere between the mouth of Rio Grande and Carboneras, Tamaulipas. Strength is the only thing in question.


I feel fairly confident this won’t be a MX landfall.


Well it's definitely going to hit Yucatán...


Final landfall.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2436 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:04 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:Beryl seems very unlikely to make landfall north of Cozumel. My personal thought is that it will just clip the southern tip of the island, or go just south of it.

It should be noted that even the ICON runs yesterday that took Beryl up to Galveston or the TX/LA border did not make Yucatan landfall north of Cozumel, so that would be a wild deviation I’ve seen no evidence for. It remains the northern outlier among the deterministic models, and it remains to be seen if or how much it is “out to lunch”.


I agree. I think the idea of it "clipping" the channel or going into the channel is just wishful thinking, without any data to back it up. Just stick with the NHC predictions and models. They HAVE the data.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2437 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:11 pm

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2438 Postby TomballEd » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:15 pm

hurricane2025 wrote:I like 57 but he’s all euro guy nothing wrong with that but can’t always follow euro


A professional met whose energy sector clients follow possible interruptions in the Gulf of Mexico follows only one model but keeps his clients. OK.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2439 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:19 pm

Does anybody know how vulnerable Brownsville Texas is to surge? Also for that part of Texas, what was the worst hurricane to strike them in history? Thanks
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion

#2440 Postby MGC » Thu Jul 04, 2024 2:20 pm

Convection is slowly starting to wrap around the east side of Beryl's circulation and with the eye reemerging shear looks to be relaxing. Landfall looks to be near Cozumel and should exit the trek across the Yucatan near Progresso as a TS. Depending on how badly the core is disrupted will determine how fast the hurricane will reintensify. Landfall north of Rio Grande is a good possibility......MGC
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