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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3081 Postby Kazmit » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:11 pm

tolakram wrote:https://i.imgur.com/koKXfYn.gif

Very close to naked.

Funny to see the low-level clouds circulating quickly while the higher clouds drift around at a much slower rate. :lol:
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3082 Postby Craters » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:14 pm

LARanger wrote:
captainbarbossa19 wrote:
CronkPSU wrote: [size=150]In addition, the global models are suggesting that the upper-level wind pattern might become more diffluent before the system reaches the coast, which could aid in the intensification process.


This is not a term you want to read when you have a hurricane forecasted preparing to make landfall.


I agree, but that's primarily because, despite a respectable vocabulary, I don’t know what the frak "diffluent" means, especially in context. Confluence I could figure out, but diffluence is a new one.

Merriam-Webster says "characterized by mushiness or deliquescence". Crap, now there's another word to look up. Something about melting and falling apart, or generally losing structure.

So basically it sounds like a shear-free environment, correct?


In the simple language I tend to use inside my head, I think that "diffluent" means something like "flowing apart." Basically, similar to "divergent."
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3083 Postby Charleswachal » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:25 pm

One of the local meteorologists in Houston released some potential wind gust maps and some of the numbers are pretty staggering for metro Houston. 65 to 95 mph winds across the city is something else for sure.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3084 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:27 pm

Craters wrote:
LARanger wrote:
captainbarbossa19 wrote:
This is not a term you want to read when you have a hurricane forecasted preparing to make landfall.


I agree, but that's primarily because, despite a respectable vocabulary, I don’t know what the frak "diffluent" means, especially in context. Confluence I could figure out, but diffluence is a new one.

Merriam-Webster says "characterized by mushiness or deliquescence". Crap, now there's another word to look up. Something about melting and falling apart, or generally losing structure.

So basically it sounds like a shear-free environment, correct?


In the simple language I tend to use inside my head, I think that "diffluent" means something like "flowing apart." Basically, similar to "divergent."


Yes it is like divergence.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3085 Postby txag2005 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:30 pm

Charleswachal wrote:One of the local meteorologists in Houston released some potential wind gust maps and some of the numbers are pretty staggering for metro Houston. 65 to 95 mph winds across the city is something else for sure.


Can you post a link?
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3086 Postby LadyBug72 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:34 pm

txag2005 wrote:
Charleswachal wrote:One of the local meteorologists in Houston released some potential wind gust maps and some of the numbers are pretty staggering for metro Houston. 65 to 95 mph winds across the city is something else for sure.


Can you post a link?


I seen them too. If I knew how to link from my phone, I would.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3087 Postby utweather » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:41 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
tolakram wrote:https://i.imgur.com/koKXfYn.gif

Very close to naked.


But was it not expected after exiting the Yucatan?


Beryl is no Gilbert. She looks like a mess.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3088 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:05 am

utweather wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:
tolakram wrote:https://i.imgur.com/koKXfYn.gif

Very close to naked.


But was it not expected after exiting the Yucatan?


Beryl is no Gilbert. She looks like a mess.


totally agree. We'll see if maybe they bring the winds down to 40 or 50 mph on the next advisory Then again, I would not be at all surprised at all to wake up to a wave tomorrow.((CAVEAT: IF IT CONTINUES IT'S TREND OF WEAKENING), but I think that's stretching it. I saw that happen with a couple of other storms in the past, but I'm having difficulty remembering their names.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3089 Postby wx98 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:06 am

Blinhart wrote:
tolakram wrote:https://i.imgur.com/koKXfYn.gif

Very close to naked.


Didn't expect her to look this ugly from the Yucatan and slight wind shear. However I can see the center relocating to the MLC if it gets strong enough to get down the surface, then I can see this get some RI for the next 48 - 90 hours while over the GoM, since they are expecting it to slow down from now until landfall.

48-90?? Landfall is expected in 60 hours…
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3090 Postby Blinhart » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:18 am

wx98 wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
tolakram wrote:https://i.imgur.com/koKXfYn.gif

Very close to naked.


Didn't expect her to look this ugly from the Yucatan and slight wind shear. However I can see the center relocating to the MLC if it gets strong enough to get down the surface, then I can see this get some RI for the next 48 - 90 hours while over the GoM, since they are expecting it to slow down from now until landfall.

48-90?? Landfall is expected in 60 hours…


It all depends on where she goes inland, 48-60 hours is around Corpus Christi, the further East she goes the longer she will take longer to get inland and the longer it takes the slower she will move.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3091 Postby vbhoutex » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:28 am

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3092 Postby wx98 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:36 am

Blinhart wrote:
wx98 wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
Didn't expect her to look this ugly from the Yucatan and slight wind shear. However I can see the center relocating to the MLC if it gets strong enough to get down the surface, then I can see this get some RI for the next 48 - 90 hours while over the GoM, since they are expecting it to slow down from now until landfall.

48-90?? Landfall is expected in 60 hours…


It all depends on where she goes inland, 48-60 hours is around Corpus Christi, the further East she goes the longer she will take longer to get inland and the longer it takes the slower she will move.

Incorrect. Nothing official indicates it will take until past midday Monday to make landfall anywhere.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3093 Postby Blinhart » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:44 am

wx98 wrote:
Blinhart wrote:
wx98 wrote:48-90?? Landfall is expected in 60 hours…


It all depends on where she goes inland, 48-60 hours is around Corpus Christi, the further East she goes the longer she will take longer to get inland and the longer it takes the slower she will move.

Incorrect. Nothing official indicates it will take until past midday Monday to make landfall anywhere.


They are already talking about not sure of forward speed and that can cause many fluctuations in landfall time.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3094 Postby Hammy » Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:48 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:
utweather wrote:
sphelps8681 wrote:
But was it not expected after exiting the Yucatan?


Beryl is no Gilbert. She looks like a mess.


totally agree. We'll see if maybe they bring the winds down to 40 or 50 mph on the next advisory Then again, I would not be at all surprised at all to wake up to a wave tomorrow.((CAVEAT: IF IT CONTINUES IT'S TREND OF WEAKENING), but I think that's stretching it. I saw that happen with a couple of other storms in the past, but I'm having difficulty remembering their names.


This still has a robust low level circulation with 65 mph flight winds, the problem it's facing is there's no convection near the center to tighten the winds and bring them to the surface. I don't imagine this is going to weaken much further given it's starting to fire convection

I'm wondering if this is going to pull a Jerry 1989, that was heavily sheared up until about 12-18 hours before landfall and then quickly strengthened
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3095 Postby 5t0rmsguy » Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:27 am

Guys does beryl even have a chance from recovering from this it looks so out of shape
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3096 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:08 am

Good lord what a mess.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3097 Postby Hurrilurker » Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:43 am

Time to recover a bit but I doubt it has time to truly rebuild and strengthen, it looks awful. Good for folks in Texas although they're likely still in for a lot of rain and flooding regardless.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3098 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:46 am

You never know, given how beryl has been so unpredictable, I wouldn’t be surprised if she has one more trick up her sleeve
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3099 Postby Nederlander » Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:59 am

Nothing super surprising with her appearance. Conditions for strengthening will become more favorable later today as the ULL moves into Mexico, SSTs get warmer and forward speed decreases. Look no further than Humberto (2007) to see how quickly organization can occur in this area.

The good news is the longer it takes her, the odds of a high end threat (cat 3+) go down. But I still wouldn’t be surprised to see RI tomorrow into Monday.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3100 Postby bob rulz » Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:27 am

Definitely looking very battered at the moment. But that LLC still looks quite vigorous. It's going to restrengthen, it's really just a matter of how much. Even if it takes a while, let's not forget how quickly Gulf storms can spin up.
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