2024 Cyclone Retirements (Breaking ATLC: Beryl, Helene, Milton; EPAC: John)

[Category5Kaiju]

I'm guessing Brenda would be out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Brenda_(1973)

While I don't have solid evidence to support this (and somebody else can correct me if necessary), I wonder if the WMO seems a bit more hesitant to incorporate past non-retired hurricane names as replacement names and prefers to use names never seen before in the basin. Take, for instance, Fiona. It could've easily been replaced with the much more popular name Faith, but it instead got replaced with Farrah. Ida could've somewhat been Inga, but they went with Imani.

[HurricaneRyan]

Ngl it'd be kind of funny if Brittany replaced Beryl. Assuming Francine doesn't end up getting retired, we'll have Brittany and Francine on the same naming list.

Is this an American Dad reference? Because I know there isn't a Brittany character on Arthur.

[HurricaneRyan]

I'm guessing Brenda would be out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Brenda_(1973)

While I don't have solid evidence to support this (and somebody else can correct me if necessary), I wonder if the WMO seems a bit more hesitant to incorporate past non-retired hurricane names as replacement names and prefers to use names never seen before in the basin. Take, for instance, Fiona. It could've easily been replaced with the much more popular name Faith, but it instead got replaced with Farrah. Ida could've somewhat been Inga, but they went with Imani.

Dolly, Laura and Irma had all been used prior to 1979 and were still selected to replace Diana, Lili and Irene respectively.

[AnnularCane]

Ngl it'd be kind of funny if Brittany replaced Beryl. Assuming Francine doesn't end up getting retired, we'll have Brittany and Francine on the same naming list.

Is this an American Dad reference? Because I know there isn't a Brittany character on Arthur.

I think because Brittany is part of the country of France.

[Category5Kaiju]

Ngl it'd be kind of funny if Brittany replaced Beryl. Assuming Francine doesn't end up getting retired, we'll have Brittany and Francine on the same naming list.

Is this an American Dad reference? Because I know there isn't a Brittany character on Arthur.

I think because Brittany is part of the country of France.

Britain and France

[underthwx]

yeah...beryl qualifies for the heave-ho....both destructive and deadly....I have been thru cyclones my whole lifetime....beryl left me feeling sideways...as it did everyone along its journey...

[ScottNAtlanta]

I'm guessing Brenda would be out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Brenda_(1973)

While I don't have solid evidence to support this (and somebody else can correct me if necessary), I wonder if the WMO seems a bit more hesitant to incorporate past non-retired hurricane names as replacement names and prefers to use names never seen before in the basin. Take, for instance, Fiona. It could've easily been replaced with the much more popular name Faith, but it instead got replaced with Farrah. Ida could've somewhat been Inga, but they went with Imani.

Dolly, Laura and Irma had all been used prior to 1979 and were still selected to replace Diana, Lili and Irene respectively.

I think Brenda would be out due to the fact it was the only hurricane to hit the western coast of the Yucatan at the time...which at first thought doesn't seem possible, but thinking on it makes sense.

[HurricaneRyan]

I feel like the situation with the power outages after Beryl will only help its retirement case, not hinder it.

[Category5Kaiju]

I feel like the situation with the power outages after Beryl will only help its retirement case, not hinder it.

More people died when Beryl hit the US as a Cat 1 than when it hit the Grenadines as a Cat 4. And people are still unfortunately dying in the US to this day from the storm

[ScottNAtlanta]

Now might not be a good time to remind people that Debby was also one of my predictions (with Beryl and Joyce)

[Category5Kaiju]

Now might not be a good time to remind people that Debby was also one of my predictions (with Beryl and Joyce)

I mean, it's still early and things can easily change...HOWEVER...some of these models really seem to want future Debby to be a retiree with the associated flooding and potential wind-related damages in the Gulf. I'm going to wait and see how the conditions evolve over the next week for sure.

[ScottNAtlanta]

Now might not be a good time to remind people that Debby was also one of my predictions (with Beryl and Joyce)

I mean, it's still early and things can easily change...HOWEVER...some of these models really seem to want future Debby to be a retiree with the associated flooding and potential wind-related damages in the Gulf. I'm going to wait and see how the conditions evolve over the next week for sure.

I think you are taking that comment a little more seriously than it was meant to be

[Category5Kaiju]

Now might not be a good time to remind people that Debby was also one of my predictions (with Beryl and Joyce)

I mean, it's still early and things can easily change...HOWEVER...some of these models really seem to want future Debby to be a retiree with the associated flooding and potential wind-related damages in the Gulf. I'm going to wait and see how the conditions evolve over the next week for sure.

I think you are taking that comment a little more seriously than it was meant to be

Ngl, I think I've fallen into the line of thinking that virtually any storm that enters the Gulf has a chance of blowing up. It's been such a common occurrence in recent years, I know

[HurricaneRyan]

Definitely too early to tell with potential Debby. But anything can happen as Beryl proved already. There's no way of knowing if we'll get another Laura/Ida/Michael/Ian situation.

[HurricaneRyan]

Debby is going to move into Florida as a Cat 1. The damage MIGHT be similar to Beryl but with more flooding. But it probably might get overshadowed by other storms this season is my guess.

[Category5Kaiju]

I will say, if some of the most severe rainfall totals being modeled were to verify in Georgia and South Carolina, then Debby might have a shot at getting the boot. I mean, you would think that some of these rainfall amounts, probably not seen since Florence in 2018, would really mean something?

[HurricaneRyan]

Debby is probably going to dodge retirement at this point.

However, future Ernesto is on the horizon.

[Category5Kaiju]

Speaking of major Bermuda hurricane strikes, why did storms like Gonzalo and Nicole end up not getting retired while storms like Fabian did despite all affecting Bermuda as a major hurricane?

[Teban54]

Speaking of major Bermuda hurricane strikes, why did storms like Gonzalo and Nicole end up not getting retired while storms like Fabian did despite all affecting Bermuda as a major hurricane?

Also add Humberto 2019 to the list. It was a Cat 3 when passing by Bermuda, though I can't remember if the island experienced the eyewall. Wikipedia says the NW coast experienced "sustained winds near Category 3 intensity".

[zal0phus]

Speaking of major Bermuda hurricane strikes, why did storms like Gonzalo and Nicole end up not getting retired while storms like Fabian did despite all affecting Bermuda as a major hurricane?

I would imagine it's because Fabian was the first one to affect Bermuda so directly in recent memory. I'll bet they were better prepared for the others