ATL: DEBBY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#521 Postby Nuno » Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:59 pm

1012mb here in west Dade and we are quite far from it.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#522 Postby MetroMike » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:00 pm

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NDG wrote:What happened to the recon, it got canceled or re-scheduled for later today?

Moved to 6pm I believe.

Thats due to the close proximity of the Cuba coast. Would require more permissions to fly near there.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#523 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:10 pm

new ship report 40 miles from center 29.73in

23.20n -83.30w from center 39mi heading 279 wind from 270 at 20.0 kts
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#524 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:13 pm

I know the NHC don't like to follow these Eddies/LLCs going around a bigger gyre but their cyclonic turn this took is very interesting, could very well become the main CoC if it aligns with the bigger circulation in the mid levels.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#525 Postby beachnut » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:13 pm

Been getting some outer rain bands in Cape Coral/Ft Myers over the last hour
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#526 Postby KirbyDude25 » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:15 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:new ship report 40 miles from center 29.73in

23.20n -83.30w from center 39mi heading 279 wind from 270 at 20.0 kts

That's roughly 1006.8 mb, which is a bit more than 2 mb deeper than the 2 PM intermediate (and that doesn't take into account that it's probably a bit deeper at the center). I agree with other users here that this might see an upgrade at 5 PM.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#527 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:16 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:new ship report 40 miles from center 29.73in

23.20n -83.30w from center 39mi heading 279 wind from 270 at 20.0 kts


That 5 mb between the ship and Dade county just verifies its a broad system.
Central pressure should be dropping between passes when recon gets there tonight to take fixes.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#528 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:17 pm

[quote="NDG"]I know the NHC don't like to follow these Eddies/LLCs going around a bigger gyre but their cyclonic turn this took is very interesting, could very well become the main CoC if it aligns with the bigger circulation in the mid levels.

Feeling confident we have a new center. If you go back to last night and follow level center on Shortwave imagery... clearly see this morning as it approached Havana, it dissipates and the low over gulf/straight begin to take over as it roated off Cuba and then around and now has deep convection with it. When recon arrives in a little bit, I suspect this will be area of TS Debby being named.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#529 Postby LandoWill » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:21 pm

So based on now being off cuba, are models running on the proper location or is the cone going to shift more west?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#530 Postby Frank P » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:22 pm

Looking at sat loops system appears to be heading just north of due west.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#531 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:22 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:
aspen wrote:
NDG wrote:What happened to the recon, it got canceled or re-scheduled for later today?

Moved to 6pm I believe.



REMARK: THE TEAL 71 MISSION TASKED IN TCPOD 24-063 HAS BEEN
CHANGED TO A 04/0000Z FIX MISSION WITH AN ADJUSTED TAKEOFF
TIME OF 03/2200Z.


22:00z - 5 = 17:00 dst 5pm eastern
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#532 Postby OuterBanker » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:25 pm

OOps -4 dst 6pm easterm (zulu does not move like dst)
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#533 Postby FLLurker32 » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:26 pm

NDG wrote:I know the NHC don't like to follow these Eddies/LLCs going around a bigger gyre but their cyclonic turn this took is very interesting, could very well become the main CoC if it aligns with the bigger circulation in the mid levels.

https://i.imgur.com/c0isOZ0.gif


Levi mentioned this in his most recent video, as well as the possibility that the convection south of Cuba could help pull it a little to the west. Looks like that could be happening in this clip you just posted.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#534 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:31 pm

LandoWill wrote:So based on now being off cuba, are models running on the proper location or is the cone going to shift more west?


Should be moving NW now following the models.
They may shift the track west a little but still should track inside 24N -84W.
If it goes further west than that in the short term there is something else going on there..
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#535 Postby NDG » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:31 pm

Saved 3.5 hr Radar loop of the circulation NW of Havana.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#536 Postby StPeteMike » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:42 pm

While the LLC seems to be moving west, I don’t think that will last too much longer. My guess, it was correcting itself to be closer or under the MLC, which is moving more north than the LLC. We should see it tuck itself under the mid-level and continue its NW movement later this evening/tonight.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#537 Postby sittingduck » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:42 pm

In a decent feeder band here in Venice right now. Lots of sideways rain and gusty
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#538 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:42 pm

two ships with 29.73in. 1006MB?
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#539 Postby Stormlover70 » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:44 pm

My joint pain is as bad if not worse than when Irma came by here. I hope Debby behaves......
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#540 Postby hipshot » Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:45 pm

OuterBanker wrote:I'm not sure what others are seeing, but I see a cdo forming over the llc. Becoming more symmetrical, large size and a potential hurricane.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/ ... itgefs=Off

I see the same thing as you but I'm just an amateur weather geek. But...the whole swirl is huge and if it comes together, we could have a
nasty storm in the GOM.
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