ATL: FRANCINE - Remnants - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#521 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:01 am

Francine has significantly expanded vertically
https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... oom=&time=
0 likes   

User avatar
Hypercane_Kyle
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3352
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:58 pm
Location: Cape Canaveral, FL

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#522 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:02 am

Wxman (and others) was definitely right about the dry air; you can see it clearly wrapping in and choking off Francine from intensifying.
1 likes   
My posts are my own personal opinion, defer to the National Hurricane Center (NHC) and other NOAA products for decision making during hurricane season.

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#523 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:02 am

Shear dropping over a large area of the W GOM
https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... oom=&time=
2 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#524 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:05 am

High TPW air starting to come in from the EPAC

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... anim=html5
1 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#525 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:16 am

With the large jet created by the Rossby Wave and the opposing winds from Francine, there will likely be a significant tornado outbreak basically from mid LA coast to FL Panhandle.
1 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#526 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:21 am

GOM is starting to backfill high CAPE air now.
Seeing 4500 just NE of Francine
0 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#527 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:27 am

Can see on IR, a large area of convection is over that high CAPE area to the NE of Francine.
A feeder band has developed from that area and is coming into Francine.
1 likes   

Sciencerocks
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 9155
Age: 39
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:51 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#528 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:32 am

Image
1 likes   

xironman
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2522
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:53 pm
Location: NoVA

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#529 Postby xironman » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:14 am

Looks more sheared than dry air. The shear was screaming at 30kts when the convection to the NE decoupled.

Image

The only product that I found that showed true dry air was the College of DuPage low level loop, and that product tends to show dry air anyways. We will see if convection bursts out now that shear is dropping. The mid-level does not look bad.

Image
2 likes   

Stormlover70
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 175
Age: 55
Joined: Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:31 am
Location: New port richey

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#530 Postby Stormlover70 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:21 am

xironman wrote:Looks more sheared than dry air. The shear was screaming at 30kts when the convection to the NE decoupled.

https://i.imgur.com/SiQP2Gv.gif

The only product that I found that showed true dry air was the College of DuPage low level loop, and that product tends to show dry air anyways. We will see if convection bursts out now that shear is dropping. The mid-level does not look bad.

https://i.imgur.com/OalCgJd.gif
eye is struggling to form. Most of impact will be east of landfall due to shear.
0 likes   

otowntiger
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1921
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:06 pm

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#531 Postby otowntiger » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:29 am

xironman wrote:Looks more sheared than dry air. The shear was screaming at 30kts when the convection to the NE decoupled.

https://i.imgur.com/SiQP2Gv.gif

The only product that I found that showed true dry air was the College of DuPage low level loop, and that product tends to show dry air anyways. We will see if convection bursts out now that shear is dropping. The mid-level does not look bad.

https://i.imgur.com/OalCgJd.gif
yeah- the longer it delays intensification the less it will intensify. Dry air or shear, or both certainly doing a great job keeping this storm in check so far.
0 likes   

User avatar
Nimbus
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5300
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:54 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#532 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:36 am

otowntiger wrote:
xironman wrote:Looks more sheared than dry air. The shear was screaming at 30kts when the convection to the NE decoupled.

https://i.imgur.com/SiQP2Gv.gif

The only product that I found that showed true dry air was the College of DuPage low level loop, and that product tends to show dry air anyways. We will see if convection bursts out now that shear is dropping. The mid-level does not look bad.

https://i.imgur.com/OalCgJd.gif
yeah- the longer it delays intensification the less it will intensify. Dry air or shear, or both certainly doing a great job keeping this storm in check so far.


Except its drifting south and the recon dropsondes for the area show high dew points.
Thats because the gulf shear is lessening so she's less likely to pull another Marilyn(I was too young to get my hopes up the first time)
1 likes   

User avatar
wxman57
Moderator-Pro Met
Moderator-Pro Met
Posts: 22979
Age: 67
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 8:06 pm
Location: Houston, TX (southwest)

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#533 Postby wxman57 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:50 am

Francine is clearly moving NNE now. Consensus and all dynamic models have shifted east to central to eastern Vermilion Bay. Could move inland east of Vermilion Bay. Zero rain for Houston out of this.
2 likes   

User avatar
cajungal
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2330
Age: 49
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:34 pm
Location: Schriever, Louisiana (60 miles southwest of New Orleans)

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#534 Postby cajungal » Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:53 am

What is good news for someone is bad news for someone else. Not liking the trend here in Lafourche
1 likes   

xironman
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2522
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:53 pm
Location: NoVA

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#535 Postby xironman » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:02 am

Eyewall is reforming on radar, I guess in honor of the NOAA plane arriving
0 likes   

3090
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 549
Age: 65
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:01 pm

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#536 Postby 3090 » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:06 am

wxman57 wrote:Francine is clearly moving NNE now. Consensus and all dynamic models have shifted east to central to eastern Vermilion Bay. Could move inland east of Vermilion Bay. Zero rain for Houston out of this.

Please correct me if I am incorrect. I believe the ICON model was pretty much showing this general landfall back on Sept. 5th, no?

That being so would be something crazy!
0 likes   

User avatar
Nimbus
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5300
Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:54 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#537 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:08 am

xironman wrote:Eyewall is reforming on radar, I guess in honor of the NOAA plane arriving


That should help verify the motion, I'd say its averaged east overnight.
Still hasn't gained much latitude.

Image
1 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#538 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:12 am

Looks like a fetus, umbilical cord, and placenta.
Ominous
1 likes   

User avatar
GCANE
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 11497
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#539 Postby GCANE » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:14 am

Already hitting it with the recon today.
2 in the air and one taxiing for take off.
0 likes   

User avatar
kevin
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2586
Age: 26
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:35 am

Re: ATL: FRANCINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#540 Postby kevin » Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:14 am

Looks like two towers are starting to rotate around the center. Might help to finally consolidate an consistent eyewall.
1 likes   


Return to “2024”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests