Low pressure developing over the western Caribbean Sea (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#141 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:32 pm

could get ugly for somebody for sure...
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#142 Postby Kazmit » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:34 pm

Happy hour GFS is putting a wrench in the idea that there was a "weaker" trend. Still too far out, there's gonna be flip-flopping.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#143 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:34 pm

Stalled development and slow movement shifted west big time thus far thru 207 down to 948mb
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#144 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:35 pm

Glad that we're back to those days of half a page of comments about a single GFS run :lol:
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#145 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:36 pm

down to 946 more northerly component h216 940mb
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#146 Postby StPeteMike » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:38 pm

946 by h210. I’m not convinced with the strong ridging, I feel like we have been here before the the “strong ridging” a week out.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#147 Postby MarioProtVI » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:38 pm

18z GFS wants Rita 2.0 (not necessarily pressure) but def Cat 5 down to 934
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#148 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:40 pm

geesh big ole boy stair stepping towards the LA coast? 943mb heading for SW LA?
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#149 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:41 pm

I want no part of this in the unlikely event this even verifies... but nothing in the tropics surprises me anymore
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#150 Postby jfk08c » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:42 pm

Curious to see the finished GFS ensemble run to see how many actually take this route. My guess is not many...
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#151 Postby Kazmit » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:44 pm

Welcome back Hurricane Laura :eek:

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#152 Postby Frank P » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:46 pm

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#153 Postby Category5Kaiju » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:47 pm

18z GFS runs never fail to disappoint :lol:
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#154 Postby DunedinDave » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:49 pm

So is the consensus that the longer this takes to develop, the more west it goes? Cause it seems like the earlier runs had this thing starting to come together by this weekend already and then headed to Fla. Now it seems to be delayed in developing and going more west.

Also what’s interesting on the GFS is that trough heading across the US doesn’t pick it up. That could be a close call there. If it digs a little deeper I would think it does get kicked the other way.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#155 Postby jfk08c » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:51 pm

DunedinDave wrote:So is the consensus that the longer this takes to develop, the more west it goes? Cause it seems like the earlier runs had this thing starting to come together by this weekend already and then headed to Fla. Now it seems to be delayed in developing and going more west.


Seems like if its slower to start moving north, the better chance it has of missing the trough and having the ridge build back to keep it heading West. All dependent on the strength of the trough, also.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#156 Postby Teban54 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:52 pm

DunedinDave wrote:So is the consensus that the longer this takes to develop, the more west it goes? Cause it seems like the earlier runs had this thing starting to come together by this weekend already and then headed to Fla. Now it seems to be delayed in developing and going more west.

Also what’s interesting on the GFS is that trough heading across the US doesn’t pick it up. That could be a close call there. If it digs a little deeper I would think it does get kicked the other way.

To illustrate the massive difference in speed between this run and some earlier runs, especially those in the past 24 hours or so:

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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#157 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:52 pm

I think the east vs west debate on that run was not because of the delayed development but instead because of the trough not digging as deep as it had in previous runs. The fork in the road to the east just wasn't big enough.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#158 Postby Stratton23 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:55 pm

And then the GFS stalls out over SW lousiana due to a building ridge to its north lol
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#159 Postby 3090 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:56 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:I think the east vs west debate on that run was not because of the delayed development but instead because of the trough not digging as deep as it had in previous runs. The fork in the road to the east just wasn't big enough.
It is a combination of both. Not either/or.
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Re: Area of low pressure to develop over the western Caribbean Sea

#160 Postby Weathertracker96 » Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:57 pm

Stratton23 wrote:And then the GFS stalls out over SW lousiana due to a building ridge to its north lol

Yea in my view, best to throw that run out. Best to stick to ensembles until we get a low. Would actually be surprised if it made it that far west in gulf
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