ATL: HELENE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1021 Postby aspen » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:26 pm

The broad-scale structure actually looks solid. You can tell that shear is lessening and outflow is improving. Probably gonna have a band-heavy core, though, which increases the odds of an EWRC at some point.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1022 Postby FLLurker32 » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:29 pm

Just a reminder that it was the 12z suite that showed Helene doing the tango with the Yucatán, not NHC.

NHC cone as of now only has the Yucatán coast in play with the likely track miles offshore — through the night tonight. She’s just a big girl doing the “wobble wobble” dance through the pub right now, as expected. Give her some time to clear her eyes (eye), pull up the spanx and get herself together. She’ll get there.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1023 Postby Frank P » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:33 pm

I expect the surge will be the main even of this system, most especially if she wobbles east of the forecast track due to the more populated areas. I sure hope everyone in a surge area evacuates or they will be regretting it big time, as many of my friends who did not evacuate during Katrina but was fortunate enough to survive told me it was the worse experience in their life, and every single person, EVERYONE said they would NEVER do it again. Know your elevation and get the hell out if there is any doubt about whether or not you will be affected by the surge.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1024 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:35 pm

Looks likes she is finally coming together, hard to believe she'll be near landfall in less than 48 hours.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1025 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:37 pm

ROCK wrote:some good data SHIPS/ buoy data intel..

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at4

Pressure is down to 997 at buoy 42056 and falling pretty rapidly
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1026 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:38 pm

Big CB hot tower over center. Showtime..
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1027 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:39 pm

In spite of how Helene looks now, I think she will still make hurricane strength by tomorrow night. But may not really start strengthening until tomorrow morning after it gets it core/center together.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1028 Postby Blown Away » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:39 pm

Helene has been spinning in 84-85W & 19-20N box all afternoon. No way it's moving WN at 12 mph...
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1029 Postby ROCK » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:40 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
ROCK wrote:some good data SHIPS/ buoy data intel..

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at4

Pressure is down to 997 at buoy 42056 and falling pretty rapidly



yeah saw that...sometimes I am lazy and wait for recon when its almost sitting on top of a buoy...lol
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1030 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:43 pm

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1031 Postby Hugo1989 » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:44 pm

Mid-level flow rotation is getting healthier. Nothing can't stop Helene now! :eek:
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1032 Postby NDG » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:46 pm

Crazy how big Helene is already getting, can I dare to say to say it is already starting to steal some moisture from John?

 https://x.com/NDGMETCHEF/status/1838680292791320958

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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1033 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:46 pm

Center likely down to ~995 accounting for wind at buoy site
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1034 Postby xironman » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:47 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:In spite of how Helene looks now, I think she will still make hurricane strength by tomorrow night. But may not really start strengthening until tomorrow morning after it gets it core/center together.


Could be tonight the pressure drops at 42056 are pretty epic.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1035 Postby DunedinDave » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:47 pm

Unless the center is in a different spot, it does look to be moving due north.

Having Ian flashbacks here because I remember distinctly it was supposed to move NW off the western tip of Cuba and it made that north turn early and I remember talking here about it on here and how it actually hit the western side of the Isle of Youth when it wasn't supposed to. The Isle wasn't even in the cone 24 hours before it got hit. And then after it crossed Cuba that NE turn way earlier than any model thought it was and then again, the models had to shift.

Storms coming from this area can be very tricky and do what they want to do. Not saying this will but just be watchful.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1036 Postby jdjaguar » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:48 pm

Hugo1989 wrote:Mid-level flow rotation is getting healthier. Nothing can't stop Helena now! :eek:

Shrimping?
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Like prawning!

Echoes of Gilbert/Wilma
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1037 Postby xironman » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:48 pm

NDG wrote:Crazy how big Helene is already getting, can I dare to say to say it is already starting to steal some moisture from John?

 https://x.com/NDGMETCHEF/status/1838680292791320958



It looks like the dying ULL will pull moisture from John and prevent Helene from ingesting continental air
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1038 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:50 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Looks likes she is finally coming together, hard to believe she'll be near landfall in less than 48 hours.


Landfall is still over 48 hours away.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1039 Postby Nimbus » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:50 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
ROCK wrote:some good data SHIPS/ buoy data intel..

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search.php?storm=at4

Pressure is down to 997 at buoy 42056 and falling pretty rapidly


Wind shift from 40 degrees to 79 probably means the LLC is headed west on a track south of 19 degrees 49 minutes.
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Re: ATL: HELENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1040 Postby Zonacane » Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:50 pm

I spy dual rotating hot towers
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