JFK assasination solved or still more to investigate?

[Lindaloo]

She was trying to retrieve a piece of her husbands head. Gruesome but true.

WHAT?!! OMG! That poor thing.

[streetsoldier]

I can speak to one thing...that Carcano carbine.

I'm better than a fair shot, yet when I owned one, I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with it at 50 yards. It kicked like a mule, had a very distinctive report ("BWATTT!"), muzzle-heavy, and the action itself was VERY slow...not enough time to take three aimed shots within the time allotted, even with telescopic sights.

As I recall, some distinguished expert riflemen TRIED to duplicate Oswald's "shooting"...and couldn't.

Also from personal experience...offal from Kennedy's head on the back of the limo says ONE thing; at least one high-powered shot (30.06 or better) hit from the FRONT. The Carcano "used" was a 6.5 mm cartridge; anemic at best, as rifles go, and especially at the range cited (from the window to the Presidential car, 200 yards).

IMNSHO, another look is needed.

[stormchazer]

I can speak to one thing...that Carcano carbine.

I'm better than a fair shot, yet when I owned one, I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with it at 50 yards. It kicked like a mule, had a very distinctive report ("BWATTT!"), muzzle-heavy, and the action itself was VERY slow...not enough time to take three aimed shots within the time allotted, even with telescopic sights.

As I recall, some distinguished expert riflemen TRIED to duplicate Oswald's "shooting"...and couldn't.

Also from personal experience...offal from Kennedy's head on the back of the limo says ONE thing; at least one high-powered shot (30.06 or better) hit from the FRONT. The Carcano "used" was a 6.5 mm cartridge; anemic at best, as rifles go, and especially at the range cited (from the window to the Presidential car, 200 yards).

IMNSHO, another look is needed.

Would you say that the round fired is high-velocity? I understood it to not be the best weapon for the type of shots fired that day. Also remember that a tree obstructed Oswald during one of the hit shots.

[GalvestonDuck]

Would you say that the round fired is high-velocity? I understood it to not be the best weapon for the type of shots fired that day. Also remember that a tree obstructed Oswald during one of the hit shots.

Is the tree still there? I've been to the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealy Plaza and Elm. You can look through the windows that look down on Dealy Plaza. However, THE corner where Oswald sat has been encased in plexiglass. So, no one can actually see directly out the window he used. But I looked through the window to the right, down towards the markings on the street that show each point where the shots were fired. I don't remember a tree. But. like I said, I was not getting the exact view Oswald had.

It interesting to watch people in the museum looking through that window because you can tell just about every one who does is trying to determine the same thing -- could a shot from this angle have done the damage that was done.

[Derek Ortt]

He could not have acted alone, there is no evidence to support that. The film does not match. In addition, the autopsy photos ar enot even of him and if they are, they have been altered as they show his head completely in tact.

The History Channel has just aired a 6 part series called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". This may have been a CIA operation where they used the Mafia, who in turn used foreign agents to perform the operation and Oswald was set up to be the fall guy to cover the tracks. I do not believe that this was a Coup de Etat as some have suggested carried out by Johnson, however

[Skywatch_NC]

*Wondering then*...If Oswald didn't act alone...how come no other arrests (to my knowledge) came about from the assassination?

Eric

[cycloneye]

*Wondering then*...If Oswald didn't act alone...how come no other arrests (to my knowledge) came about from the assassination?

Eric

I think that we will never know the real truth about what happened that day.

[george_r_1961]

Oswald acted alone yes...in the sense he carried out the assasination by himself. I do not believe it was his idea though; he was coerced or promised renumeration for his act. He wasnt supposed to get caught though and when he did, Jack Ruby was there to make sure he kept his mouth shut..forever.

[GalvestonDuck]

He could not have acted alone, there is no evidence to support that. The film does not match. In addition, the autopsy photos ar enot even of him and if they are, they have been altered as they show his head completely in tact.

The History Channel has just aired a 6 part series called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". This may have been a CIA operation where they used the Mafia, who in turn used foreign agents to perform the operation and Oswald was set up to be the fall guy to cover the tracks. I do not believe that this was a Coup de Etat as some have suggested carried out by Johnson, however

What autopsy photos are you looking at? The ones I see don't show an intact head.

WARNING!! Extremely graphic photos of death. Do NOT click links if you are easily upset, have experienced similar trauma of your loved ones, or can't stand the sight of blood. And don't say I didn't warn you.

Anyone else, click away:

http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html

http://www.jfklancer.com/aphotos.html

Non-photo site with description and authentication of photos:
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/infojf ... uthaut.htm

[Skywatch_NC]

In hindsight...wonder if the Secret Service agents talked with Kennedy about safety before his Dallas trip...having the top up on the convertible and bullet-proof windows? I mean you can't take too many chances when safety comes to mind. Just an observation...

Eric

[Lindaloo]

Graphic indeed. I have seen those photos before.

[Derek Ortt]

The ones that the History Channel showed showed the back of his head in tact, which does not support the assination video, which should that portion affected by the final shot

[GalvestonDuck]

I'll have to try to catch the HC special sometime. Odd that pictures would show it intact when the assassination video shows such a graphic blow out, consistent with a frontal shot. I watch too many crime dramas.

[Derek Ortt]

The series is currently being replayed at the present time, though the part showing the autosopy photos may be over. I beleive they ar eon part 3 of 6 right now

[janswizard]

I have a question. I watched CNN's report the other night that was a focus of the President's death from a journalists standpoint. I was in 3rd grade at the time and although I remember the incident, I can't remember this part.

After the President was declared dead at the hospital, they loaded his body in a casket along with Jackie and President and Mrs Johnson for a trip back to Washington, DC. I believe it was on this plane that Johnson was sworn in as the 36th President.

I guess my question concerns the autopsy. When did they have time to do a thorough autopsy - while the body was still in Dallas or later after it was transferred to Washington? And isn't it a little unusual to place an "unprepared" body into a casket for shipment prior to an autopsy being performed?

[stormchazer]

I have a question. I watched CNN's report the other night that was a focus of the President's death from a journalists standpoint. I was in 3rd grade at the time and although I remember the incident, I can't remember this part.

After the President was declared dead at the hospital, they loaded his body in a casket along with Jackie and President and Mrs Johnson for a trip back to Washington, DC. I believe it was on this plane that Johnson was sworn in as the 36th President.

I guess my question concerns the autopsy. When did they have time to do a thorough autopsy - while the body was still in Dallas or later after it was transferred to Washington? And isn't it a little unusual to place an "unprepared" body into a casket for shipment prior to an autopsy being performed?

It was done at Bethesda Naval Hospital by two Doctors under some very watchful eyes.

[streetsoldier]

And the two Naval pathologists were dismissed by "persons unknown", with the tapes and conclusions taken away on scene to an undisclosed location.

Due to "National Security" concerns, these records will not be made available to the general public until 72 years have passed from the date of the assassination...22 NOV 2035.

[cycloneye]

And the two Naval pathologists were dismissed by "persons unknown", with the tapes and conclusions taken away on scene to an undisclosed location.

Due to "National Security" concerns, these records will not be made available to the general public until 72 years have passed from the date of the assassination...22 NOV 2035.

Why wait so long for that release? What are the concerns to do it now?

[rainstorm]

I THINK ITS SIMPLE. oswald was a loner who wanted to do something big. when he couldnt get to cuba or russia in sept 63, he decided to kill someone big. it was just a lot of circumstances coming together. a great special on pbs last night which debunked the myths of the conspriacy theory. the witness i liked best was the man on the 5th floor of the book depository right under oswald. he clearly heard " BOOM, click, click, BOOM, click click, BOOM" as oswald took those 3 shots. a sober, objective analysis can lead to one conclusion, he was a lone assassin

[janswizard]

Greta Van Sustern on Fox Cable News is supposed to be having a special at midnight tonight - it's probably a repeat but I didn't see it the first time around. I'd like to watch it but I it's waaay past my bedtime since I'm in retail and have to work tomorrow.