Possible development in the Gulf of Mexico (Is Invest 92L)

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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#41 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:22 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
Travorum wrote:18z GFS:
https://i.imgur.com/2fGw1bP.gif



What's it doing, coming back to give Florida a kiss before heading out? :lol:

:lol:

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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#42 Postby Pelicane » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:08 pm

GFS has a vorticity signature for this in four days.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#43 Postby Category5Kaiju » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:37 pm

Looks like both GFS and CMC like the idea of this bombing out in the Gulf while stalling and then being slingshotted to the north/northeast. Unlike Helene, it looks like it may be more of a slow-mover.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#44 Postby Travorum » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:39 pm

Teban54 wrote:
AnnularCane wrote:
Travorum wrote:18z GFS:
https://i.imgur.com/2fGw1bP.gif



What's it doing, coming back to give Florida a kiss before heading out? :lol:

:lol:

https://i.postimg.cc/rFsCHKhF/gfs-mslp-pcpn-watl-fh180-324.gif


Its giving Jeanne 2004 with the circle back to the FL east coast :lol:
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#45 Postby Teban54 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:42 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Looks like both GFS and CMC like the idea of this bombing out in the Gulf while stalling and then being slingshotted to the north/northeast. Unlike Helene, it looks like it may be more of a slow-mover.

To be fair, Helene was initially also expected to be a slow-mover by GFS (and to a limited extent, Euro and ICON). There were many runs where, instead of being picked up by the trough that's actually picking it up in real life now, it missed the trough and stalled in the BoC for days waiting for the next one in an Opal-like situation. This sound exactly like what GFS is doing here.

This is to say, upper-level conditions can flip-flop in later runs, and I suspect they will. They'll have significant downstream impacts for this system.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#46 Postby LAF92 » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:46 pm

Category5Kaiju wrote:Looks like both GFS and CMC like the idea of this bombing out in the Gulf while stalling and then being slingshotted to the north/northeast. Unlike Helene, it looks like it may be more of a slow-mover.

I know it’s 250 hours out but the 00z gfs is showing a stall along the Louisiana coast and back into the gulf heading southeast. Crazy run to say the least
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#47 Postby ElectricStorm » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:46 pm

0z GFS has 957mb near New Orleans
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#48 Postby caneseddy » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:50 pm

Canadian has it landfalling in the Panhandle, but weak
Icon has nothing
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#49 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:50 am

caneseddy wrote:Canadian has it landfalling in the Panhandle, but weak
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yep models are doing the typical flip flopping, which is very normal this far out. Expected that.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#50 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:05 am

Western Caribbean:
An area of low pressure could form over the western Caribbean Sea by
the middle of next week. Environmental conditions are expected to be
conducive for slow development thereafter, while the system moves
generally northwestward, potentially entering the Gulf of Mexico by
the end of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#51 Postby chris_fit » Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:50 am

06Z GFS pushes this west into Mexico.

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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#52 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:51 am

chris_fit wrote:06Z GFS pushes this west into Mexico.

https://i.imgur.com/674j8Gf.png


A weaker run than 00z.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#53 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:49 am

8 AM:

Western Caribbean:
An area of low pressure could form over the western Caribbean Sea by
the middle of next week. Environmental conditions are expected to be
conducive for slow development thereafter while the system moves
generally northwestward, potentially entering the Gulf of Mexico by
the end of next week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#54 Postby Pipelines182 » Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:49 am

Hey, someone unplug the models and plug them back in, they're stuck on repeat, but seriously, can we not? I'm doubtful this potential storm would ground out in Mexico in October, but you never know. At least Helene did use up some energy in the western Caribbean, SSTs have dropped there (still plenty high), but the storm didn't do much in the GoM, just moving too fast at that point.

So let's see, Texas, Louisiana, and Florida have all gotten hurricanes this year. I guess next up in the GoM is Alabama/Mississippi, line up and get your licks as my granddad used to say.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#55 Postby chris_fit » Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:51 am

Pipelines182 wrote:Hey, someone unplug the models and plug them back in, they're stuck on repeat, but seriously, can we not? I'm doubtful this potential storm would ground out in Mexico in October, but you never know. At least Helene did use up some energy in the western Caribbean, SSTs have dropped there (still plenty high), but the storm didn't do much in the GoM, just moving too fast at that point.

So let's see, Texas, Louisiana, and Florida have all gotten hurricanes this year. I guess next up in the GoM is Alabama/Mississippi, line up and get your licks as my granddad used to say.



06Z GFS seems to have backed down a bit - let's see if it continues. Reflections and/or storms are still there on the Big 3 - and the EURO AI. Would love to see the Icon but it does not go out that far. Have to wait another 2 days or so to see if it starts showing as the time comes in.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#56 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:52 am

Starting to see a consensus that there will be something. No consensus on what that something is though.
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#57 Postby BIFF_THE_UNRULY » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:36 am

Travorum wrote:18z GFS:
https://i.imgur.com/2fGw1bP.gif


Oh man thats a tiny little storm :eek:
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#58 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:24 am

BIFF_THE_UNRULY wrote:
Travorum wrote:18z GFS:
https://i.imgur.com/2fGw1bP.gif


Oh man thats a tiny little storm :eek:

Famous last words, lol. Let's see what happens, but small storms ramp up and ramp down quickly and are prone to shear, so we will see. Im in a hurricane contest and picked Milton as the strongest so I need a few more to be in the conversaion, nobody took beryl or helene :D
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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#59 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:33 am

12z ICON develops weak storm in BOC from this.

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Re: Possible development in the Western Caribbean

#60 Postby Travorum » Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:47 am

12z GFS also weak with a 998mb tropical storm into Morgan City, LA.

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