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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#21 Postby chaser1 » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:02 pm

Buck wrote:I had an Uncle Milton, he was a nice guy…


Same here. Mine was "Uncle Milty" lol!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#22 Postby CFLHurricane » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:09 pm

Soluna16 wrote:Seeing these intensities slowly creep up living in central florida :double:


Uncle Milton is shaping up to be a well ventilated storm over boiling hot waters, so time would be his main enemy. Will the Tampa shield finally be defeated? Will he be the first direct hurricane strike on the Space Coast since David in 1979? And will Mickey Mouse close his Kingdom?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#23 Postby Hurricane Mike » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:24 pm

11pm Video Update on our system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRsI4L-mcPI
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#24 Postby fci » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:45 pm

Hurricane Mike wrote:11pm Video Update on our system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRsI4L-mcPI


Excellent video, thank you.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#25 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Oct 04, 2024 10:57 pm

There seems to be a broad area of low pressure under the convection, this might develop before recon gets there on sunday
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#26 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:23 pm

Been a lot of uncertainty over the past week over what would come from this. But now it’s starting to look a bit more like a tropical system will be born.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#27 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:24 pm

Circulation if becoming better defined tonight, could be a TD as early as tomorrow morning, if trends continue, IMO.

 https://x.com/cjfieldswx/status/1842416943321498052


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#28 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Oct 04, 2024 11:58 pm

That convection has been persistent for some time now. This might be it already.

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North of this area shear is out of control, but right here and due east it’s almost non existent right now.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#29 Postby grapealcoholic » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:00 am

Curved band setting up east of the convection
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#30 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:00 am

eastcoastFL wrote:That convection has been persistent for some time now. This might be it already.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/34983105.gif?0.20864913849250144



North of this area shear is out of control, but right here and due east it’s almost non existent right now.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF



That’s also why the gfs 00z is nonsense
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#31 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:03 am

SFLcane wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:That convection has been persistent for some time now. This might be it already.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/34983105.gif?0.20864913849250144



North of this area shear is out of control, but right here and due east it’s almost non existent right now.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF



That’s also why the gfs 00z is nonsense


That just looked crazy, I guess we will see what future runs have in store. It’s a weird set up so I’m sure more changes are in store.
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#32 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:08 am

SFLcane wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:That convection has been persistent for some time now. This might be it already.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/34983105.gif?0.20864913849250144



North of this area shear is out of control, but right here and due east it’s almost non existent right now.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF



That’s also why the gfs 00z is nonsense


Not really nonsense since several Euro ensembles show the same but looking at satellite this is organizing at a faster clip than thought would happen so we may have a stronger system for Florida than anyone anticipated and as always things can change but I believe we could get anything from a strong tropical storm to cat 4 hurricane but most likely a strong tropical storm as of now
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#33 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:13 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:That convection has been persistent for some time now. This might be it already.

https://www.weathernerds.org/satellite/sessions/34983105.gif?0.20864913849250144



North of this area shear is out of control, but right here and due east it’s almost non existent right now.

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/atlantic/winds/wg8shr.GIF



That’s also why the gfs 00z is nonsense


Not really nonsense since several Euro ensembles show the same but looking at satellite this is organizing at a faster clip than thought would happen so we may have a stronger system for Florida than anyone anticipated and as always things can change but I believe we could get anything from a strong tropical storm to cat 4 hurricane but most likely a strong tropical storm as of now


Euro ensembles could be over amped right now I’d go with something in the middle just not a major in 2 days lol. Conditions north look pretty hostile to say the least
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#34 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:19 am

SFLcane wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
SFLcane wrote:

That’s also why the gfs 00z is nonsense


Not really nonsense since several Euro ensembles show the same but looking at satellite this is organizing at a faster clip than thought would happen so we may have a stronger system for Florida than anyone anticipated and as always things can change but I believe we could get anything from a strong tropical storm to cat 4 hurricane but most likely a strong tropical storm as of now


Euro ensembles could be over amped right now I’d go with something in the middle just not a major in 2 days lol. Conditions north look pretty hostile to say the least

Never underestimate jet interactions.
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#35 Postby mantis83 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:22 am

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Soluna16 wrote:Seeing these intensities slowly creep up living in central florida :double:


Uncle Milton is shaping up to be a well ventilated storm over boiling hot waters, so time would be his main enemy. Will the Tampa shield finally be defeated? Will he be the first direct hurricane strike on the Space Coast since David in 1979? And will Mickey Mouse close his Kingdom?

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Would be something if this system does take down the "Tampa Shield," like you would've thought that a system coming from the Caribbean or the Florida Straits would be the one to do that but instead, a system originating from the Bay of Campeche and traveling basically due east ends up being the one.

Tampa shield not as strong as the south florida shield 8-)
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#36 Postby SFLcane » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:24 am

MarioProtVI wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
Not really nonsense since several Euro ensembles show the same but looking at satellite this is organizing at a faster clip than thought would happen so we may have a stronger system for Florida than anyone anticipated and as always things can change but I believe we could get anything from a strong tropical storm to cat 4 hurricane but most likely a strong tropical storm as of now


Euro ensembles could be over amped right now I’d go with something in the middle just not a major in 2 days lol. Conditions north look pretty hostile to say the least

Never underestimate jet interactions.


I hear ya but gfs has been flip flopping last 2-3 days form a hurricane to nothing I would certainly not worry to much what it’s currently showing .
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#37 Postby Flwxguy86 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:27 am

The uncomfortable thing for me and I am sure others in the Tampa area is, If the models keep trending stronger, That is A LOT of people to evacuate, warn and get out of the way in probably something like 3 days out of an area that is already still dealing with issue's, and it's not like you can just go north a little bit because there dealing with worse effects from Helene than this area, and if you go south, you run the risk of the storm instead making landfall there. Where exactly are all these people gonna go on 3 days notice? Sounds like a recipe for a disaster.
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#38 Postby CFLHurricane » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:45 am

Flwxguy86 wrote:The uncomfortable thing for me and I am sure others in the Tampa area is, If the models keep trending stronger, That is A LOT of people to evacuate, warn and get out of the way in probably something like 3 days out of an area that is already still dealing with issue's, and it's not like you can just go north a little bit because there dealing with worse effects from Helene than this area, and if you go south, you run the risk of the storm instead making landfall there. Where exactly are all these people gonna go on 3 days notice? Sounds like a recipe for a disaster.


Orlando is far enough inland to be a suitable refuge for evacuees. There’s plenty of hotels and hospitals with backup power and it’s just up I-4. Plus, FPL has done such a phenomenal job insulating the grid that I wouldn’t be too worried about CAT2 winds causing a sustained outage there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#39 Postby Flwxguy86 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:50 am

CFLHurricane wrote:
Flwxguy86 wrote:The uncomfortable thing for me and I am sure others in the Tampa area is, If the models keep trending stronger, That is A LOT of people to evacuate, warn and get out of the way in probably something like 3 days out of an area that is already still dealing with issue's, and it's not like you can just go north a little bit because there dealing with worse effects from Helene than this area, and if you go south, you run the risk of the storm instead making landfall there. Where exactly are all these people gonna go on 3 days notice? Sounds like a recipe for a disaster.


Orlando is far enough inland to be a suitable refuge for evacuees. There’s plenty of hotels and hospitals with backup power and it’s just up I-4. Plus, FPL has done such a phenomenal job insulating the grid that I wouldn’t be too worried about CAT2 winds causing a sustained outage there.


That seems ok, The issue I'd see is back in 2004(hurricane Charlie) everyone left for Orlando and even though it didn't hit Tampa directly, They had winds well over 100mph in Orlando, So i could see a lot of people being unsure about heading to Orlando if this plays out the way the GFS is currently showing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#40 Postby Fancy1002 » Sat Oct 05, 2024 12:58 am

SFLcane wrote:
MarioProtVI wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
Euro ensembles could be over amped right now I’d go with something in the middle just not a major in 2 days lol. Conditions north look pretty hostile to say the least

Never underestimate jet interactions.


I hear ya but gfs has been flip flopping last 2-3 days form a hurricane to nothing I would certainly not worry to much what it’s currently showing .

How much do you wanna bet that the first or second set of intensity models send a category four hurricane into Tampa.
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