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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2941 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:27 am

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
kevin wrote:Recon descending to operational altitude and about to enter Milton. Very curious what they will find, not only Milton's intensity but especially the status of the eye(wall).


Satellite presentation continues to degrade. Can’t imagine they will find the re-strengthening that NHC predicted.


Not sure I agree with either your observation or conclusion. Maybe IR it's not as pretty as it looked yesterday, but if you look under-the-hood the structure is very sound still. Eye obscuration could be remnants from the original inner eyewall still holding on somewhere, or another structural evolution.

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The HAFS called for this as far back as yesterday morning; an EWRC overnight into the morning, pressures and winds staying steady until about 00z where Milton begins intensifying for a secondary peak. It has done well so far.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2942 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:31 am

Looks like another pinhole eye
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2943 Postby Hammy » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:31 am

926 extrap, which seems about the same as earlier. I'm willing to bet that, given the rate it was rising and how much the satellite degraded in the hours after, that the pressure probably continued rising after the plane left and is probably on it's way back down now.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2944 Postby Keldeo1997 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:33 am

Eyewall starting to intensify on Cancun rader.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2945 Postby chris_fit » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:35 am

Checkout the FL Radar - look at the showers moving from E to W in East Central FL. Is that indicative of how strong that sheer is up over C/N FL?

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2946 Postby ColdMiser123 » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:36 am

No evidence of a double wind maxima anymore. In line with microwave data, the eyewall replacement cycle appears to have nearly completed. Cloud debris from the inner eyewall remnants are still obscuring the eye on IR.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2947 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:38 am

Solid eyewall this morning.
The size of the eye is bigger.
It has started to gain latitude.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2948 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:46 am

EWRC complete, only one wind maxima
Expecting another round of intensification close to noon EDT

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2949 Postby Michele B » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:46 am

Stormgodess wrote:
Teban54 wrote:Even during EWRC, Milton still wants to keep the -80C ring.

https://i.postimg.cc/nzZqPcJr/goes16-ir-14-L-202410080217.gif


Geez Scorpion reef is getting pounded right now. I realize it's uninhabited, but wonder what sort of ecological damage a storm like this could do to it?


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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2950 Postby aspen » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:49 am

GCANE wrote:EWRC complete, only one wind maxima
Expecting another round of intensification close to noon EDT

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png

Why specifically close to noon? Is that when ionospheric heating from last night’s G3 storm will peak?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2951 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:52 am

Solid low end Cat 4, let the re-strengthening begin.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2952 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:53 am

GCANE wrote:EWRC complete, only one wind maxima
Expecting another round of intensification close to noon EDT

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png
It hits the loop today, whats up with space weather today?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2953 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:54 am

Seeing a lot of lightning firing in the new eyewall. We'll see if the pressure is dropping between passes.

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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2954 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:56 am

chris_fit wrote:Checkout the FL Radar - look at the showers moving from E to W in East Central FL. Is that indicative of how strong that sheer is up over C/N FL?

https://i.imgur.com/hmsznO3.gif


GFS is persistent that the shear will be ~25 knots just prior to or at landfall, moving parallel to the shear vector it will not be enough to knock down its core until after landfall.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2955 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:59 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
kevin wrote:Recon descending to operational altitude and about to enter Milton. Very curious what they will find, not only Milton's intensity but especially the status of the eye(wall).


Satellite presentation continues to degrade. Can’t imagine they will find the re-strengthening that NHC predicted.


Not sure I agree with either your observation or conclusion. Maybe IR it's not as pretty as it looked yesterday, but if you look under-the-hood the structure is very sound still. Eye obscuration could be remnants from the original inner eyewall still holding on somewhere, or another structural evolution.

https://i.imgur.com/pf35fFO.jpeg

The HAFS called for this as far back as yesterday morning; an EWRC overnight into the morning, pressures and winds staying steady until about 00z where Milton begins intensifying for a secondary peak. It has done well so far.


It looks like the structure is sound. It probably leveled off a bit over night and will gradually strengthen a bit more this morning. Hopefully I'm wrong but I don't see any signs of it falling apart.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2956 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:00 am

aspen wrote:
GCANE wrote:EWRC complete, only one wind maxima
Expecting another round of intensification close to noon EDT

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png

Why specifically close to noon? Is that when ionospheric heating from last night’s G3 storm will peak?


Yes, when the blue area gets over the GoM
https://solarham.com/globald.htm
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2957 Postby grapealcoholic » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:03 am

GCANE wrote:
aspen wrote:
GCANE wrote:EWRC complete, only one wind maxima
Expecting another round of intensification close to noon EDT

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png

Why specifically close to noon? Is that when ionospheric heating from last night’s G3 storm will peak?


Yes, when the blue area gets over the GoM
https://solarham.com/globald.htm


You're joking right?
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2958 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:04 am

jlauderdal wrote:
GCANE wrote:EWRC complete, only one wind maxima
Expecting another round of intensification close to noon EDT

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/r ... series.png
It hits the loop today, whats up with space weather today?


Still strong geomagnetic storm
https://solarham.com/kp.htm

Primarily from low-energy electrons and high-energy protons.
https://solarham.com/protons.htm
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2959 Postby toad strangler » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:04 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Seeing a lot of lightning firing in the new eyewall. We'll see if the pressure is dropping between passes.

https://i.imgur.com/DO9U59S.png


Milton has already grown in size.
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Re: ATL: MILTON - Hurricane - Discussion

#2960 Postby xironman » Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:06 am

Doing a good job of walling off the dry air so that is not going to help

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