ATL: MILTON - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[Meteorcane]

Impressive... the winds went dead calm at Sarasota during eye passage (after gusting 93 previously)... now gusting 102 again on the back side!

https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=KSRQ&hours=72

[StormPyrate]

water still leaving the bay
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/ports ... e=allwater

[JtSmarts]

Sarasota-Bradenton Intl sustained at 69 gusting to 102 as of 9:36

https://www.weather.gov/tbw/

[eastcoastFL]

These weakening storms really just don’t pack much punch in the wind department, do they? Cat 1 Beryl had more impressive winds over land from the videos I’ve seen.

Tell that to my house in central Hillsborough that's currently creaking and shaking. I'm impressed.

TS force winds will do that for sure! Most people don’t realize just how crazy 60 mph winds are in person.

They’re gusting in the 90s now as it may get worse as the back side comes through. This isn’t even close to over.

[Cflstorm]

Has anyone in the north Tampa area heard of cell phone service going down? My brother is in Carrollwood and I can’t get thru to him, doesn’t ring and goes to vm. He has Verizon for cell service.

Cell service is spotty in a lot of places. Tornados took down some towers.

I just got to talk to him, voice only. No text or internet.

[kassi]

There have been more hurricane deaths in 2024 than in 2022 and 2023 combined.

[ronjon]

Tampa international sustained winds of 47 mph gusting to 82 mph. Albert Whitted downtown St Pete sustained wind of 61 mph gusting to 90 mph.

[cheezyWXguy]

Looks like Tampa got spared again. Their mayor is going to regret telling people they would meet certain death if they didn’t evacuate.

These weakening storms really just don’t pack much punch in the wind department, do they? Cat 1 Beryl had more impressive winds over land from the videos I’ve seen.

Do you think that the people in the low lying evacuation zones wouldn’t face certain death if Milton had made landfall in St Petersburg and funneled the max storm surge into the bay? Knowing that such an outcome was well within the margin of error until basically this morning, do feel it would have been a wiser decision to gamble that many lives?

[gailwarning]

Seems my father in laws home may have taken a direct hit from the large tornado that moved through The Acreage in Palm Beach County.

Oh dear, I hope not!

Yes I can confirm his home did in fact take a hit. He lost all trees in the yard, his fence impaled the neighbors truck, the neighbors roof is gone but his is intact.

I guess it could have been a lot worse, but still no fun to go through. Imagine the power it would take to drive a fence through a truck! Good thing nobody was walking around out there.

[ronjon]

TIA rainfall so far: 8.46 inches
St Pete Clearwater rainfall so far: 9.19 inches

[Travorum]

Tampa is in a Flash Flood Emergency…

Looks like Tampa got spared again. Their mayor is going to regret telling people they would meet certain death if they didn’t evacuate.

These weakening storms really just don’t pack much punch in the wind department, do they? Cat 1 Beryl had more impressive winds over land from the videos I’ve seen.

People up there didn’t drown in the surge. It came in south. Who knows what the TB rainfall total will be but I’d guess 8+”.

According to ABC rainfall at some stations in Tampa were greater than 14"

[HurricaneBelle]

TIA rainfall so far: 8.46 inches
St Pete Clearwater rainfall so far: 9.19 inches

Fresh water flooding may end up the big story in Pinellas/Hillsborough.

[mpic]

Fox Weather on tv is reporting "Catastrophic flooding in Tampa" in their ticker. It must be from rainfall?

[jasons2k]

Does this board still love him or have they recognized him as a dangerous attention-hog?

I love Josh and all those guys. If you don’t want to give him any attention probably don’t watch or post about him? I haven’t seen him at all today more on accident though. I only listened to 5 seconds of that so maybe I missed something. I’ve been more tuned in to intense feeds

What makes him dangerous??

Josh has written PH. D. caliber papers on tropical systems. He’s one of the smartest chasers out there. But definitely the “do not try this at home” mantra applies.

[Abdullah]

Hey, can someone explain why there's such a huge discrepancy between the mesoscale maps on the National Weather service websites and the airport wind speeds? Based on what I've been observing in my area, the mesoscale wind speeds seemed to have been much more accurate, with airport wind speeds being way overstated. Maybe it's because of houses causing friction and less wind?

Anyway, can someone explain what the differences are and why the differences are so big? This also occurred during Helene and I made a post in that thread, too, but nobody responded.



West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Pompano Beach are all reporting wind speeds of 24 to 26 MPH, but on the map they are barely 15 MPH.

On top of this, all the airport wind speeds seem to have peaked earlier this afternoon and have been going down, but observationally it seems that the winds right now are getting stronger and stronger at this moment.

[jasons2k]

Sarasota-Bradenton Intl sustained at 69 gusting to 102 as of 9:36

https://www.weather.gov/tbw/

Looks like the anemometer has now failed.

[Steve]

Tampa stuck in that NW wall. Hope y’all all are good.

[JtSmarts]

Sarasota-Bradenton Intl sustained at 69 gusting to 102 as of 9:36

https://www.weather.gov/tbw/

Looks like the anemometer has now failed.

St. Petersburg/Clearwater Airport hasn't reported since around 8:49.

[Teban54]

TIA rainfall so far: 8.46 inches
St Pete Clearwater rainfall so far: 9.19 inches

Fresh water flooding may end up the big story in Pinellas/Hillsborough.

This reminds me of the time when Ian's official forecast track was shifting from north of Tampa Bay to the south (before eventually ending up in Fort Myers). While the insane surge forecasts were gone, they were replaced by equally bad rainfalls.

Who would have thought that scenario would actually verify just 2 years later...

[Meteorcane]

Hey, can someone explain why there's such a huge discrepancy between the mesoscale maps on the National Weather service websites and the airport wind speeds? Based on what I've been observing in my area, the mesoscale wind speeds seemed to have been much more accurate, with airport wind speeds being way overstated. Maybe it's because of houses causing friction and less wind?

Anyway, can someone explain what the differences are and why the differences are so big? This also occurred during Helene and I made a post in that thread, too, but nobody responded.

https://i.imgur.com/6ZMN1xF.png

West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Pompano Beach are all reporting wind speeds of 24 to 26 MPH, but on the map they are barely 15 MPH.

On top of this, all the airport wind speeds seem to have peaked earlier this afternoon and have been going down, but observationally it seems that the winds right now are getting stronger and stronger at this moment.

The Airports ASOS or AWOS (the automated observing system) are typically better sited to represent "open exposure" and are also going to have their anemometer at 10m elevation (the official measuring height for wind). Most personal weather stations will be sited within an urban or quasi-urban exposure that enhances friction and reduces wind speeds... additionally many will have anemometers located below 10m which also will reduce speeds. The airport measurements are more apples to apples to what is actually forecast by the weather service and the hurricane center when they forecast wind speeds (although there are private companies and such that will provide wind gust forecasts for heights other than 10m for wind energy etc.).