ATL: NADINE - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: T.S . Nadine- Discussion

#21 Postby TheEuropean » Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:10 am

This is from yesterday. I think that would be a bit too late...

WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1115 AM EDT FRI 18 OCTOBER 2024
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 19/1100Z TO 20/1100Z OCTOBER 2024
TCPOD NUMBER.....24-140

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. SUSPECT AREA (NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN - AL95)
FLIGHT ONE - TEAL 71
A. 19/1500Z
B. AFXXX 01IIA INVEST
C. 19/1200Z
D. 17.5N 87.5W
E. 19/1430Z TO 19/1930Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
G. FIX
H. NO WRA ACTIVATION
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#22 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:32 am

Here's the radar our of Belize - https://nms.gov.bz/sensors/radar-imagery/

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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#23 Postby ChrisH-UK » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:39 am

TS Nadine has blown up over night, it has a lot of convection and it looks like the center of rotation is much further north than the models have and given how it looks it could have implications like moving over into the Bay of Campeche and rapid intensification that often happens there.

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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#24 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:29 am

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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone - Discussion

#25 Postby USTropics » Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:54 am

ChrisH-UK wrote:TS Nadine has blown up over night, it has a lot of convection and it looks like the center of rotation is much further north than the models have and given how it looks it could have implications like moving over into the Bay of Campeche and rapid intensification that often happens there.

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I don't anticipate this getting into the BOC, in fact there should be some southerly component to motion later today. The cold front that pushed down into the GOM has not only given us a 'false' fall here in Florida (it's going to warm back up, sorry guys) but behind it we have subsidence dump/high pressure extending all the way into the BOC:
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ECMWF ensembles:
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#26 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:30 am

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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#27 Postby WaveBreaking » Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:07 am



Glad this was a Julia ‘22-type situation where it ran out of time to RI instead of something like ETA or Iota. But the flooding from this storm will probably be horrible regardless.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#28 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:45 am

Thinking this a 50 to 65mph storm right now.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#29 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:46 am

Current Intensity Analysis



UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.1
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 19 OCT 2024 Time : 131020 UTC
Lat : 17:19:54 N Lon : 87:51:24 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.4 / 991.0mb/ 53.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
3.4 3.7 4.0
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#30 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:22 am

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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#31 Postby Pasmorade » Sat Oct 19, 2024 10:07 am

NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152024
1000 AM CDT Sat Oct 19 2024

Nadine is very close to making landfall in Belize, near Belize City.
The center is currently moving across the country's barrier islands
of Turneffe Atoll and landfall on the mainland will likely occur
within the next hour. The sprawling tropical storm continues to
slowly intensify, and a combination of objective and subjective
satellite intensity estimates support increasing the maximum winds
to 45 kt. Furthermore, radar data indicate that the structure of
Nadine has improved and there are curved bands surrounding the
center. The Air Force Hurricane Hunters are currently in the
northern portion of the storm, and they will likely reach the center
soon. A Tropical Cyclone Update will be provided when the storm
makes landfall.

The storm is moving due westward at 7 kt, and the system is expected
to continue accelerating in that direction during the next day or
so. This motion should take Nadine across Belize, northern
Guatemala, and southern Mexico later today through Sunday.

Nadine is expected to weaken after the core moves inland, and it
will likely dissipate over southern Mexico by late Sunday. The
remnants have a high chance of reforming in the eastern Pacific
basin during the early to middle part of next week.


Key Messages:

1. Localized areas of flash flooding are possible along the track
of Nadine across southern Mexico, northern Guatemala, and northern
Belize.

2. Tropical storm conditions are expected along portions of the
coasts of Belize and the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico within the
warning area through this afternoon.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 19/1500Z 17.3N 87.9W 45 KT 50 MPH
12H 20/0000Z 17.3N 89.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
24H 20/1200Z 16.8N 92.3W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND
36H 21/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#32 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:06 am

Tropical Storm Nadine Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152024
1100 AM CDT Sat Oct 19 2024

...NADINE MAKES LANDFALL IN BELIZE...

Satellite and radar images indicate that Nadine has made landfall
in Belize, near Belize City around 1100 am CDT (1600 UTC). The
maximum sustained winds are near 60 mph (95 km/h) based on data
from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters and surface observations.

A weather station in San Pedro in the southern Yucatan Peninsula
recently reported a sustained wind of 55 mph (89 km/h) and a gust
to 67 mph (107 km/h).

Tropical-storm-conditions are expected across Belize and the Yucatan
Peninsula through the afternoon.

SUMMARY OF 1100 AM CDT...1600 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...17.4N 88.3W
ABOUT 10 MI...15 KM SW OF BELIZE CITY
ABOUT 75 MI...120 KM S OF CHETUMAL MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...60 MPH...95 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 8 MPH...13 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1002 MB...29.59 INCHES

$$
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion: Made landfall in Belize at 50kt.

#33 Postby cycloneye » Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:13 am

Anyone agrees that if Nadine would have more time in the water, it would be a hurricane? I say yes.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion: Made landfall in Belize at 50kt.

#34 Postby Teban54 » Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:38 am

cycloneye wrote:Anyone agrees that if Nadine would have more time in the water, it would be a hurricane? I say yes.

Looks like a weaker version of Gamma 2020, as Nadine had even less time than Gamma did. The jump to 50 kt at landfall out of nowhere in such a short span of time is still very impressive, though.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion: Made landfall in Belize at 50kt.

#35 Postby wwizard » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:03 pm

cycloneye wrote:Anyone agrees that if Nadine would have more time in the water, it would be a hurricane? I say yes.


No doubt. The way it shot up to 60mph before landfall, and then there’s the chance Oscar might be a hurricane already, once the engines to these systems finally get put together, the jet fuel warm waters are making these storms blow up.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#36 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:52 pm

Nadine came and went unlike her 2012 counterpart. These weaker storms usually organize right at landfall probably due to the friction tightening the systems up.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#37 Postby AnnularCane » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:56 pm

She's still looking pretty healthy considering she's been inland for hours.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#38 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 19, 2024 9:47 pm

Any chance that this could survive intact into the EPAC? I know it is 80% for development once there.
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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#39 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:49 am

Final forecast point is back over water in the EPac; looks like we’ll have a basin-crosser:

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Re: ATL: NADINE - Tropical Storm - Discussion: Made landfall in Belize at 50kt.

#40 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:51 am

cycloneye wrote:Anyone agrees that if Nadine would have more time in the water, it would be a hurricane? I say yes.


I think if Nadine had been over water longer, it would of been a hurricane. The satellite presentations show a more circular pattern.
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