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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1861 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:49 pm

From the HGX NWS AFD at 2 pm...this snippet

The deterministic run of the GFS is still the most aggressive with
bringing showers, and dare I mention some freezing/frozen
precipitation Wednesday ahead of another fast moving weather system.
This is a bit of an outlier from the other ensemble members, as well
as the ECMWF which keeps this system much farther south. Far too
uncertain to include any mention of this in the forecast, but the
possibility is non-zero for sure- especially across the north.
Global models often underdo the arctic air (speed, depth and
magnitude), so there is still a lot to play out. Thus, we can`t
just completely discount the few models bringing more snow/ice into
the forecast mid week. At this point, we just need to stay tuned!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1862 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:51 pm

Not sure why they said the op GFS is an outlier from its ensemble, it definitely is not
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1863 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:59 pm

566
FXUS64 KFWD 022148
AFDFWD

Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
348 PM CST Thu Jan 2 2025

...New Long Term...

.KEY MESSAGES...

- Near to above-normal temperatures will continue through the
remainder of the week.

- A strong cold front will arrive on Sunday, increasing the
potential for showers with an isolated storm or two possible.

- Arctic air will arrive on Sunday, ushering in the coldest air
of the season thus far. Widespread lows in the 20s are expected
most nights next week.

- Although precipitation chances remain low, confidence has
increased slightly in the winter precipitation potential for mid
next week.

&&

.SHORT TERM... /Issued 1242 PM CST Thu Jan 2 2025/
/Through Friday/

A cool and relatively benign weather regime will persist over
North Texas this afternoon through Friday as a dry upper level
northwesterly flow pattern dominates the region. Weak southerly
surface flow will continue through this evening, but a backing of
the winds to an east and northeast direction can be expected later
tonight, as a weak cold front pushes through the area. The weak
cold advection associated with the passage of this boundary will
retard Friday`s highs slightly, compared with today`s values.

A substantial mass of low clouds covers the southern portion of
the forecast area at midday, owing to a pool of high moisture in
the lower portion of the atmosphere, and some weak isentropic
ascent. Portions of this mass will thin out and mix just a bit
this afternoon, yielding partly sunny conditions over Central
Texas after 3-4 pm. Areas of stratus are likely to redevelop and
expand across much of the area early tomorrow morning, and this
will persist through most of the morning. Elsewhere, sunny skies
should prevail Friday. Generally seasonable temperatures will
continue through Friday.

Bradshaw

&&

.LONG TERM... /NEW/
/Friday Night Onward/

A challenging weather forecast lies ahead for North and Central
Texas as we continue to focus on the impending arctic cold air.

Prior to the front`s arrival, Saturday is looking more dreary
with on and off light drizzle for areas along and east of I-35.
This light drizzle will eventually transition to light rain
showers Saturday night as a cold front slides closer our region.
By Sunday morning, the cold front will be racing to the southeast
and likely clear all of our Central Texas counties by noon. Rain
showers will precede the cold front across East Texas with a
minimal potential for a storm or two.

As the front moves through our region, temperatures will quickly
plummet with Sunday`s highs occurring early in the morning. A
downward temperature trend is expected so make sure to bundle up
as wind chills by sunset Sunday will be in the 20s and 30s.

Cold air will settle across North and Central Texas next week,
yielding not only cold actual temperatures but wind chills in the
teens at night and below 35 degrees each day. There is
relatively high confidence that temperatures Monday and Tuesday
will struggle to make it out of the 30s in North Texas and 40s
across Central Texas. For those that will have kids returning to
school after the holiday break, prepare for wind chills Monday
and Tuesday morning to be in the 10-20 degree range during bus
pickup. Thankfully, precipitation is highly unlikely during the
Monday-Tuesday timeframe.

As we approach the middle of the week, confidence has slightly
increased that wintry precipitation may unfold somewhere across
our region. There are still differing model solutions that largely
cluster around two scenarios; either a transient, quick moving
trough or a cut-off low across Baja California. So you might ask
yourself...what has changed if models remain split on potential
solutions?

The main change in the latest guidance is that regardless of
which scenario occurs, a few more ensemble members have trended
upwards in the potential for precipitation. Even with the upward
trend in precipitation potential, the overall chance for
precipitation chances remain low. Although we are still 6-7 days
out from the potential wintry precipitation, the latest guidance
does favor Central Texas for low chances of travel impacts. Those
across North Texas will still want to monitor the forecast,
however, the impact potential remains lower than across Central
Texas.

Going forward, the challenge will continue to be the evolution of
the trough during the middle of the week. If the trough becomes
cut-off and retreats toward the Baja California peninsula, weak
impulses are more likely to advance toward our region and could
lead to a higher potential for wintry precipitation. If the low
remains transient, wintry precipitation can still occur, however,
much lighter precipitation would lead to no or very low impacts.

Beyond 7 days, model consensus favors a gradual warming trend
with highs in the 50s as we approach next weekend. There is a
subset of guidance (less than 25%) that keeps highs below 35
degrees through the weekend. Until we`re able to iron out the next
7 days with more confidence, the forecast for next weekend will
remain highly variable with each suite of model runs. Make sure to
remain up to date with the latest weather information as we
continue to refine the forecast through the next several days.

Hernandez
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1864 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:00 pm

:uarrow:

Well it seems they are taking notice of what we have been tracking.

:D
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1865 Postby Ralph's Weather » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:03 pm

NWS SHV starting to talk about snow in their discussion and they are including snow in their forecast south of I-20. Not often you get NWS around here going snow at Day 6/7.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1866 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:10 pm

Can we all sit back and appreciate for a moment all this potential was out 300+ hours and is still a threat? That's a very long way out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1867 Postby Brandon8181 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:12 pm

Ntxw wrote:Can we all sit back and appreciate for a moment all this potential was out 300+ hours and is still a threat? That's a very long way out.


Pretty cool. I certainly don't want to jump the gun, but it is exciting that the GFS was hinting at something so far away...even though it wobbled a bit, and now here we are within a week :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1868 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:12 pm

Ntxw wrote:Can we all sit back and appreciate for a moment all this potential was out 300+ hours and is still a threat? That's a very long way out.


Absolutely.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1869 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:13 pm

Ntxw wrote:Can we all sit back and appreciate for a moment all this potential was out 300+ hours and is still a threat? That's a very long way out.


I think we should also take a moment for how many times we had people completely jump ship and lose it over every little model run, and yet here we are and it might still just happen, think about all that wasted emotion. :ggreen:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1870 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:14 pm

Ntxw wrote:Can we all sit back and appreciate for a moment all this potential was out 300+ hours and is still a threat? That's a very long way out.

Amen. It's never easy and won't be until we see cold and flakes. Emotional rollercoasters are much easier to predict. Happens every year. Let's enjoy the next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1871 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:17 pm

Big winter storm on 18z GFS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1872 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:18 pm

Ntxw wrote:Big winter storm on 18z GFS.

And yet I get missed from both storms

EDIT: Of course I speak too soon! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1873 Postby Brandon8181 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:18 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Can we all sit back and appreciate for a moment all this potential was out 300+ hours and is still a threat? That's a very long way out.


I think we should also take a moment for how many times we had people completely jump ship and lose it over every little model run, and yet here we are and it might still just happen, think about all that wasted emotion. :ggreen:


We always have to remember when its beyond 10 days...its generally about the "trend". Colder/Hotter/wetter, etc.... and then locations is very generalized at that point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1874 Postby UTSARoadrunner4 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:19 pm

[xpost] https://x.com/chrissuchanwoai/status/18 ... 7t10NsZo2Q[/xpost]
As of right now, at least 1 San Antonio meteorologist is starting to become “intrigued”…
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1875 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:20 pm

Well, that is a crazy jump west

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1876 Postby Brandon8181 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:21 pm

Ntxw wrote:Big winter storm on 18z GFS.


You are under doing it. That one is freaking huge lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1877 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:22 pm

Oh good grief
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1878 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:22 pm

Brandon8181 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Big winter storm on 18z GFS.


You are under doing it. That one is freaking huge lol


Yeah it's a full neg tilt trough coming out. It's just one run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1879 Postby wxman22 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:24 pm

Wow!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1880 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:26 pm

A multi-day winter storm, good grief

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