As I ready my firepit for an enjoyable Central Florida chill tonight

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chaser1 wrote:Happy New Years!
As I ready my firepit for an enjoyable Central Florida chill tonighthere's my quick (entirely unscientific) January "hunch" for 2025. Three straight landfalls in August to include Erin, Fernand, and Gabrielle. Primary threats being the Bahamas, Florida, & South Carolina. Thereafter, I think we'll see a return to seeing storm tracks recurving east of the CONUS but not without a serious Cat 4 or 5 threat to Puerto Rico and/or Leeward Islands. Otherwise, my gut is that 2025 will also end moderately above average in terms of numbers of named storms.
WeatherBoy2000 wrote:Here are my early thoughts:
- There's nothing to indicate the tropical Atlantic rapidly cooling off, nor is there any indication of a robust el nino coming. I think the question will be more how above average than if there will be an above average season.
- A hurricane of at least high end cat 4 intensity (150mph+).
- A monster late season hurricane
- At least one mdr storm in June or July.
- The first major hurricane to threaten the East Coast since Dorian in 2019.
StormWeather wrote:WeatherBoy2000 wrote:Here are my early thoughts:
- There's nothing to indicate the tropical Atlantic rapidly cooling off, nor is there any indication of a robust el nino coming. I think the question will be more how above average than if there will be an above average season.
- A hurricane of at least high end cat 4 intensity (150mph+).
- A monster late season hurricane
- At least one mdr storm in June or July.
- The first major hurricane to threaten the East Coast since Dorian in 2019.
Yeah, a June MDR storm seems to be the norm now.
2020 had a brief limon in the MDR.
2021 had future Hurricane Elsa form in the MDR on June 30th. Elsa was the earliest 5th named storm on record.
2022 had Bonnie having TS force winds but not a very good circulation so it was a PTC.
2023 had Bret and Cindy, the first time on record that two TC formed in the MDR in June and were active at the same time.
2024 had the freck Hurricane Beryl, which became a extremely rare June Major and the first June MDR Major on record.
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What is the atmospheric conditions responsible for this uptick in June MDR activity these last five years?
chaser1 wrote:Happy New Years!
As I ready my firepit for an enjoyable Central Florida chill tonighthere's my quick (entirely unscientific) January "hunch" for 2025. Three straight landfalls in August to include Erin, Fernand, and Gabrielle. Primary threats being the Bahamas, Florida, & South Carolina. Thereafter, I think we'll see a return to seeing storm tracks recurving east of the CONUS but not without a serious Cat 4 or 5 threat to Puerto Rico and/or Leeward Islands. Otherwise, my gut is that 2025 will also end moderately above average in terms of numbers of named storms.
Steve wrote:chaser1 wrote:Happy New Years!
As I ready my firepit for an enjoyable Central Florida chill tonighthere's my quick (entirely unscientific) January "hunch" for 2025. Three straight landfalls in August to include Erin, Fernand, and Gabrielle. Primary threats being the Bahamas, Florida, & South Carolina. Thereafter, I think we'll see a return to seeing storm tracks recurving east of the CONUS but not without a serious Cat 4 or 5 threat to Puerto Rico and/or Leeward Islands. Otherwise, my gut is that 2025 will also end moderately above average in terms of numbers of named storms.
Hey chaser. It’s still cold in NWFL and looks to be that way at least for the next week. I don’t see a big recurve season based on the way the troughs and highs have been coming down - and it’s only January so we haven’t reached the midpoint of winter. Looks to me like it could be a scattered season. There are always recurves and surely 2025 will have them. Not that things repeat but there are some analogies re Florida 2004 and 2024 as far as landfalls. We know what followed 2004 which was a much worse season (with Deep South snowfall at Christmas 2004 vs 16 days after in 2024). No way am I suggesting 2025 will parallel 2005. But the clues to the season are in the weather patterns. If a mean trough sets up in the west in February, the whole gulf and east coasts are going to be open at times during the summer and fall. TBD
WalterWhite wrote:What will be interesting to see is whether or not this season features development before June 1. This does not mean much, but it would make it more “in line” with other recent seasons.
Steve wrote:chaser1 wrote:Happy New Years!
As I ready my firepit for an enjoyable Central Florida chill tonighthere's my quick (entirely unscientific) January "hunch" for 2025. Three straight landfalls in August to include Erin, Fernand, and Gabrielle. Primary threats being the Bahamas, Florida, & South Carolina. Thereafter, I think we'll see a return to seeing storm tracks recurving east of the CONUS but not without a serious Cat 4 or 5 threat to Puerto Rico and/or Leeward Islands. Otherwise, my gut is that 2025 will also end moderately above average in terms of numbers of named storms.
Hey chaser. It’s still cold in NWFL and looks to be that way at least for the next week. I don’t see a big recurve season based on the way the troughs and highs have been coming down - and it’s only January so we haven’t reached the midpoint of winter. Looks to me like it could be a scattered season. There are always recurves and surely 2025 will have them. Not that things repeat but there are some analogies re Florida 2004 and 2024 as far as landfalls. We know what followed 2004 which was a much worse season (with Deep South snowfall at Christmas 2004 vs 16 days after in 2024). No way am I suggesting 2025 will parallel 2005. But the clues to the season are in the weather patterns. If a mean trough sets up in the west in February, the whole gulf and east coasts are going to be open at times during the summer and fall. TBD
chaser1 wrote:WalterWhite wrote:What will be interesting to see is whether or not this season features development before June 1. This does not mean much, but it would make it more “in line” with other recent seasons.
True, we have seen more May development over the recent decade or two. On the other hand, I tend to lean against 2025 having early development soley due to anticipated residual La Nina conditions. Seems to me that early development tends to go more hand in hand with El Nino years although I can't say that I have actually charted out the past ENSO events to verify that.
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