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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8261 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:08 am

KFOR is now forecasting lows BELOW ZERO next week! :eek: :cold: :froze:

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8262 Postby HockeyTx82 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:12 am

Iceresistance wrote:KFOR is now forecasting lows BELOW ZERO next week! :eek: :cold: :froze:

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I wonder what that means if for North Texas? I mean the barbed wire fence can stop some of the cold air right?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8263 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:21 am

If you thought the CMC was crazy before with temps, it's even crazier now this 12z.

Moral of the story here is upstream it's trending colder in Montana, WY and areas further west. We won't know the breath of true cold until it pools up there, it's looking a doozy further north. Snow or no snow, the potential is there for this to be the coldest, this late benchmark for many.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8264 Postby Gotwood » Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:22 am

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:KFOR is now forecasting lows BELOW ZERO next week! :eek: :cold: :froze:

https://s3.gifyu.com/images/bS2As.png
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I wonder what that means if for North Texas? I mean the barbed wire fence can stop some of the cold air right?

I would say it all depends on snow pack
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8265 Postby Iceresistance » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:00 pm

Ntxw wrote:If you thought the CMC was crazy before with temps, it's even crazier now this 12z.

Moral of the story here is upstream it's trending colder in Montana, WY and areas further west. We won't know the breath of true cold until it pools up there, it's looking a doozy further north. Snow or no snow, the potential is there for this to be the coldest, this late benchmark for many.

Also mention 1060mb HP in Montana
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8266 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:05 pm

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Ntxw wrote:If you thought the CMC was crazy before with temps, it's even crazier now this 12z.

Moral of the story here is upstream it's trending colder in Montana, WY and areas further west. We won't know the breath of true cold until it pools up there, it's looking a doozy further north. Snow or no snow, the potential is there for this to be the coldest, this late benchmark for many.

Also mention 1060mb HP in Montana


I don't think we've seen a verified 1060mb in Montana since 1983. We've seen modeled 1060s, I'm not sure even 1055 has verified yet if anyone else knows that's not some high peak in the Rockies.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8267 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:10 pm

12z CMC moved a little more toward the GFS in regard to QPF next week so not much of an outlier now. ICON continues to be dry. Next up Euro.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8268 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:12 pm

dry solutions suck
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8269 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:16 pm

txtwister78 wrote:12z CMC moved a little more toward the GFS in regard to QPF next week so not much of an outlier now. ICON continues to be dry. Next up Euro.

QPF will shift many times, we know we will be cold and we know there will be a short wave. That equals chances for winter precip. We can start paying attention to QPF location starting Monday or so.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8270 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:17 pm

Stratton23 wrote:dry solutions suck


Unfortunately the colder the models trend the drier they will look. Too much blistering :cold:.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8271 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:25 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:
txtwister78 wrote:12z CMC moved a little more toward the GFS in regard to QPF next week so not much of an outlier now. ICON continues to be dry. Next up Euro.

QPF will shift many times, we know we will be cold and we know there will be a short wave. That equals chances for winter precip. We can start paying attention to QPF location starting Monday or so.


I was mainly referring to post made earlier about outliers. Yes, we will see some subtle shifts back and forth between now and then but the colder this gets, the less bullish I am about precip as air will be very dry and unless we see a stronger SW or has others have mentioned it slows down significantly which seems less likely as these like to ride the arctic boundary, I am more inclined to think the GFS solution may very well verify.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8272 Postby Gotwood » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:33 pm

txtwister78 wrote:
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txtwister78 wrote:12z CMC moved a little more toward the GFS in regard to QPF next week so not much of an outlier now. ICON continues to be dry. Next up Euro.

QPF will shift many times, we know we will be cold and we know there will be a short wave. That equals chances for winter precip. We can start paying attention to QPF location starting Monday or so.


I was mainly referring to post made earlier about outliers. Yes, we will see some subtle shifts back and forth between now and then but the colder this gets, the less bullish I am about precip as air will be very dry and unless we see a stronger SW or has others have mentioned it slows down significantly which seems less likely as these like to ride the arctic boundary, I am more inclined to think the GFS solution may very well verify.

This winter has really been the what could have been. So many close calls yet I’ve received 1/2 inch of snow/sleet at my place all winter.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8273 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:41 pm

Euro is a lot of dry cold. -30F+ departures for most of the state. Oklahoma is -45Fs below normal.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8274 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:41 pm

Euro run sucks, as much as i love the cold, arctic cold but no precipitation is just wasted cold, send that stuff back up to the north pole if its gonna be dry
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8275 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:45 pm

Gotwood wrote:
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Ralph's Weather wrote:QPF will shift many times, we know we will be cold and we know there will be a short wave. That equals chances for winter precip. We can start paying attention to QPF location starting Monday or so.


I was mainly referring to post made earlier about outliers. Yes, we will see some subtle shifts back and forth between now and then but the colder this gets, the less bullish I am about precip as air will be very dry and unless we see a stronger SW or has others have mentioned it slows down significantly which seems less likely as these like to ride the arctic boundary, I am more inclined to think the GFS solution may very well verify.

This winter has really been the what could have been. So many close calls yet I’ve received 1/2 inch of snow/sleet at my place all winter.


Yeah, similar here in January but then again, getting some snow to fall at all down my way isn't your typical winter for folks across this region and so I count this year more as a win I guess considering we got some snow in terms of the alternative most winters which for us is typically a week or two of real cold and that's about it. January was very cold overall and now we get another shot in February, but to your point you hate to waste cold in Texas if it isn't snowing.

Unfortunately, across Texas, we often get most of the ingredients right, but we typically end up missing one during these cold outbreaks. Either too cold/dry, not enough cold or the moisture is just plain lacking overall. Really need southern branch help for these events and that doesn't look to be in the cards.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8276 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:46 pm

Yup...everything trending toward GFS solution QPF wise. Imagine that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8277 Postby Ntxw » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:48 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Euro run sucks, as much as i love the cold, arctic cold but no precipitation is just wasted cold, send that stuff back up to the north pole if its gonna be dry


Euro 500mb still is not terrible though. In fact for your IMBY interests having shortwave come out like that isn't a complete shutdown. There is time still my friend, just find the moisture at the surface.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8278 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:49 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Euro run sucks, as much as i love the cold, arctic cold but no precipitation is just wasted cold, send that stuff back up to the north pole if its gonna be dry


I’ll take the dry cold, especially if it goes to extreme levels.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8279 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:50 pm

Ready for this honestly after this final cold shot. Bring on Spring and hopefully more rain.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8280 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:51 pm

Ntxw i hope so, dont want this to be like december 2022 where everything got suppressed because it was too cold, if its like youre typical winter cold front ( highs in the 50’s and 60’s) i wouldnt mind it being dry, but when its a major arctic front, you just hate to see it be bone dry when you definitely have the cold air needed if their was any moisture around
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