Texas Winter 2024-2025

Winter Weather Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
rylo7956
Tropical Low
Tropical Low
Posts: 16
Age: 50
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:59 pm
Location: Coppell, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8581 Postby rylo7956 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:29 am

CaptinCrunch wrote:Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
530 AM CST Tue Feb 18 2025


.KEY MESSAGES...

- An Arctic cold front will arrive today, bringing strong north
winds with gusts up to 35 mph along with dangerous wind chills
of -10 to 10 degrees through Thursday morning.

- Temperatures will fall below freezing across North Texas this
afternoon and evening with light freezing rain and drizzle
occurring. This could result in icy conditions mainly on
bridges and overpasses.

- There is also another chance for rain on Saturday, with a low
potential for a transition to freezing rain on Saturday morning.
This scenario is still uncertain.

With this morning`s forecast issuance, brief Winter Weather
Advisories were issued for portions of North Texas which will go
into effect later today due to the chance for light freezing rain
and drizzle to result in icing mainly on bridges and overpasses.
Overall, little has changed with the forecast, aside from a
slightly faster arrival of the sub-freezing airmass which
unsurprisingly is best handled by the RAP/HRRR and 3 km NAM. The
main time windows of concern for light ice accumulations are noon
to 6 PM for western North Texas, and about 5 PM to 10 PM for areas
from the Metroplex northward.

Another potential hazard is a chance for lake-effect snow to
materialize on the southern sides of North Texas lakes tonight
into early Wednesday morning. There may be a brief window of time
where sufficient moisture remains in place within the lowest 1 km
with temperatures at the base of the inversion and cloud layer
falling as low as -10 to -12C. This would support dendritic
growth with light snow flurries developing beneath the warm nose.
No snow will be mentioned in the forecast for the sake of
simplicity at this time, but this may bear watching heading into
Wednesday morning as some very localized accumulations would be a
possibility.

Otherwise, temperature are still on track to reach their coldest
values of the season with widespread lows in the teens tonight
into Wednesday morning. An Extreme Cold Warning and Cold Weather
Advisory remain in effect, with wind chill values of -10 to 0
degrees expected roughly form the DFW Metroplex northwestward.
Despite gradually clearing skies during the daytime Wednesday,
afternoon highs will remain near or below freezing for much of the
area, with the exception of Central Texas which should manage to
reach the mid 30s or so. Wind speeds will remain gusty the entire
day though, with maximum wind chill values only reaching the teens
and lower 20s.



I was just thinking if this front could cause Lake effect Snow. Couple of years ago Coppell got almost 1.5 inches of lake effect snow and with water temps in the low 50's maybe we see a repeat tonight
6 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38090
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8582 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:37 am

We even had some freezing drizzle and now the roads are icy

It's brisk out there :froze: snow just starting now
5 likes   
#neversummer

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22785
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8583 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:38 am

rylo7956 wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
530 AM CST Tue Feb 18 2025


.KEY MESSAGES...

- An Arctic cold front will arrive today, bringing strong north
winds with gusts up to 35 mph along with dangerous wind chills
of -10 to 10 degrees through Thursday morning.

- Temperatures will fall below freezing across North Texas this
afternoon and evening with light freezing rain and drizzle
occurring. This could result in icy conditions mainly on
bridges and overpasses.

- There is also another chance for rain on Saturday, with a low
potential for a transition to freezing rain on Saturday morning.
This scenario is still uncertain.

With this morning`s forecast issuance, brief Winter Weather
Advisories were issued for portions of North Texas which will go
into effect later today due to the chance for light freezing rain
and drizzle to result in icing mainly on bridges and overpasses.
Overall, little has changed with the forecast, aside from a
slightly faster arrival of the sub-freezing airmass which
unsurprisingly is best handled by the RAP/HRRR and 3 km NAM. The
main time windows of concern for light ice accumulations are noon
to 6 PM for western North Texas, and about 5 PM to 10 PM for areas
from the Metroplex northward.

Another potential hazard is a chance for lake-effect snow to
materialize on the southern sides of North Texas lakes tonight
into early Wednesday morning. There may be a brief window of time
where sufficient moisture remains in place within the lowest 1 km
with temperatures at the base of the inversion and cloud layer
falling as low as -10 to -12C. This would support dendritic
growth with light snow flurries developing beneath the warm nose.
No snow will be mentioned in the forecast for the sake of
simplicity at this time, but this may bear watching heading into
Wednesday morning as some very localized accumulations would be a
possibility.

Otherwise, temperature are still on track to reach their coldest
values of the season with widespread lows in the teens tonight
into Wednesday morning. An Extreme Cold Warning and Cold Weather
Advisory remain in effect, with wind chill values of -10 to 0
degrees expected roughly form the DFW Metroplex northwestward.
Despite gradually clearing skies during the daytime Wednesday,
afternoon highs will remain near or below freezing for much of the
area, with the exception of Central Texas which should manage to
reach the mid 30s or so. Wind speeds will remain gusty the entire
day though, with maximum wind chill values only reaching the teens
and lower 20s.



I was just thinking if this front could cause Lake effect Snow. Couple of years ago Coppell got almost 1.5 inches of lake effect snow and with water temps in the low 50's maybe we see a repeat tonight


I mentioned this the past few days. The pieces are in place for possibility of LES. It doesn't mean it will happen but you look for check boxes for the DFW area Lakes. You can have initiation on a bigger lake like Texoma and then it enhanced downstream by Lewisville etc.

1. Overhead S/W moving W to E despite dry, provides mid-level moisture
2. Winds that are northerly or even better northeasterly from low to higher ground
3. Snow growth close to the ground with temps in the teens
6 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.

  Help support Storm2K!
Help Support Storm2K

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38090
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8584 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:01 am

Semi across the interstate in OKC somewhere :double:

Starting to really snow now here
2 likes   
#neversummer

Lagreeneyes03
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 558
Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:53 am
Location: Luxurious Lake Grapevine

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8585 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:05 am

Ntxw wrote:
rylo7956 wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Fort Worth TX
530 AM CST Tue Feb 18 2025


.KEY MESSAGES...

- An Arctic cold front will arrive today, bringing strong north
winds with gusts up to 35 mph along with dangerous wind chills
of -10 to 10 degrees through Thursday morning.

- Temperatures will fall below freezing across North Texas this
afternoon and evening with light freezing rain and drizzle
occurring. This could result in icy conditions mainly on
bridges and overpasses.

- There is also another chance for rain on Saturday, with a low
potential for a transition to freezing rain on Saturday morning.
This scenario is still uncertain.

With this morning`s forecast issuance, brief Winter Weather
Advisories were issued for portions of North Texas which will go
into effect later today due to the chance for light freezing rain
and drizzle to result in icing mainly on bridges and overpasses.
Overall, little has changed with the forecast, aside from a
slightly faster arrival of the sub-freezing airmass which
unsurprisingly is best handled by the RAP/HRRR and 3 km NAM. The
main time windows of concern for light ice accumulations are noon
to 6 PM for western North Texas, and about 5 PM to 10 PM for areas
from the Metroplex northward.

Another potential hazard is a chance for lake-effect snow to
materialize on the southern sides of North Texas lakes tonight
into early Wednesday morning. There may be a brief window of time
where sufficient moisture remains in place within the lowest 1 km
with temperatures at the base of the inversion and cloud layer
falling as low as -10 to -12C. This would support dendritic
growth with light snow flurries developing beneath the warm nose.
No snow will be mentioned in the forecast for the sake of
simplicity at this time, but this may bear watching heading into
Wednesday morning as some very localized accumulations would be a
possibility.

Otherwise, temperature are still on track to reach their coldest
values of the season with widespread lows in the teens tonight
into Wednesday morning. An Extreme Cold Warning and Cold Weather
Advisory remain in effect, with wind chill values of -10 to 0
degrees expected roughly form the DFW Metroplex northwestward.
Despite gradually clearing skies during the daytime Wednesday,
afternoon highs will remain near or below freezing for much of the
area, with the exception of Central Texas which should manage to
reach the mid 30s or so. Wind speeds will remain gusty the entire
day though, with maximum wind chill values only reaching the teens
and lower 20s.



I was just thinking if this front could cause Lake effect Snow. Couple of years ago Coppell got almost 1.5 inches of lake effect snow and with water temps in the low 50's maybe we see a repeat tonight


I mentioned this the past few days. The pieces are in place for possibility of LES. It doesn't mean it will happen but you look for check boxes for the DFW area Lakes. You can have initiation on a bigger lake like Texoma and then it enhanced downstream by Lewisville etc.

1. Overhead S/W moving W to E despite dry, provides mid-level moisture
2. Winds that are northerly or even better northeasterly from low to higher ground
3. Snow growth close to the ground with temps in the teens



We got the LES in Grapevine too, that year.
1 likes   
I'm a Princess, not a forecaster.

User avatar
Portastorm
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 9914
Age: 63
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:16 am
Location: Round Rock, TX
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8586 Postby Portastorm » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:09 am

orangeblood wrote:Potentially dangerous evening commute across the DFW Metroplex. Light frz rain/drizzle/sleet with temps in mid 20's is arguably the most dangerous driving situation you can have...drivers can get overconfident going from bone dry roadways to a thin ice sheet in an instant. This scenario happened in Feb 2021 in downtown Fort Worth with multiple fatality pileups

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/instant_ptype/1739880000/1739934000-WkmjLz08BKg.png


I'm a bit intrigued by some of the meso models showing patchy freezing drizzle tonight even down here. It won't be much if any but as we know, it doesn't take much to create traffic havoc. Hope it doesn't get too nasty up there in the Metroplex.
3 likes   
Any forecasts under my name are to be taken with a grain of salt. Get your best forecasts from the National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center.

orangeblood
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3714
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:14 pm
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8587 Postby orangeblood » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:18 am

Portastorm wrote:
orangeblood wrote:Potentially dangerous evening commute across the DFW Metroplex. Light frz rain/drizzle/sleet with temps in mid 20's is arguably the most dangerous driving situation you can have...drivers can get overconfident going from bone dry roadways to a thin ice sheet in an instant. This scenario happened in Feb 2021 in downtown Fort Worth with multiple fatality pileups

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/nam-nest/tx/instant_ptype/1739880000/1739934000-WkmjLz08BKg.png


I'm a bit intrigued by some of the meso models showing patchy freezing drizzle tonight even down here. It won't be much if any but as we know, it doesn't take much to create traffic havoc. Hope it doesn't get too nasty up there in the Metroplex.


Yeah, that's definitely a frz drizzle reflectivity signature in Austin on the NAM3k around midnight tonight

Image
2 likes   

User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22785
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8588 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:26 am

Front is coming through Parker and Wise counties. Should be entering the western portions of the metroplex soon.

WF 25F
Graham 31F
Jacksboro 36F
Eastland 32F

Amarillo 7F
OKC 19F
Tulsa 18F - Tundra going on here
3 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


User avatar
Ntxw
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 22785
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:34 pm
Location: DFW, Texas

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8589 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:36 am

Just to note the models are doing well in Oklahoma (OPs even 12z initiation) but are behind in the panhandle with temps. Only the ICON initiated well.
1 likes   
The above post and any post by Ntxw is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including Storm2k. For official information, please refer to NWS products.



  Help support Storm2K!

Help Support Storm2K


rwfromkansas
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2627
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:47 am
Location: North Fort Worth

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8590 Postby rwfromkansas » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:40 am

Things look potentially more dangerous than before for DFW.

I still have nightmares about the FW pile-up. We went to school that day in Keller, and it was perfectly dry up here in N FW. But, that little patch on 35 created that problem down south just a few miles that caused such horror.

If I were a district, I would cancel to be safe tomorrow, but I bet most won't in DFW.

It's tricky because ultimately, a light bit of ice on the roads WILL evaporate. So, it depends on how much there is if it will be there in the morning. Most assume if there is ice at night there will be in the morning, but not with a dry cold north wind. That will evaporate a lot of it.

But, after 2021, I would frankly want to be more cautious.
Last edited by rwfromkansas on Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
4 likes   

User avatar
wxman22
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1492
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:39 am
Location: Wichita Falls, TX
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8591 Postby wxman22 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:41 am

Still getting consistent freezing drizzle everything outside is being coated by a thin glaze. The HRRR is showing some mesoscale snow band forming in the panhandle and moving through here late afternoon.
2 likes   

User avatar
Portastorm
Storm2k Moderator
Storm2k Moderator
Posts: 9914
Age: 63
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2003 9:16 am
Location: Round Rock, TX
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8592 Postby Portastorm » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:44 am

rwfromkansas wrote:Things look potentially more dangerous than before for DFW.

I still have nightmares about the FW pile-up. We went to school that day in Keller, and it was perfectly dry up here in N FW. But, that little patch on 35 created that problem down south just a few miles that caused such horror.

If I were a district, I would cancel to be safe tomorrow, but I bet most won't in DFW.

It's tricky because ultimately, a light bit of ice on the roads WILL evaporate. So, it depends on how much there is if it will be there in the morning. Most assume if there is ice at night there will be in the morning, but not with a dry cold north wind. That will evaporate a lot of it.

But, after 2021, I would frankly want to be more cautious.


Yep. Along those lines, me and txtwister78 were talking about schools down here (South Central Texas) could consider delayed openings due to the brutal (and dangerous) wind chills predicted for Wednesday and Thursday mornings. I'm surprised I have not seen much on that on social media.
2 likes   
Any forecasts under my name are to be taken with a grain of salt. Get your best forecasts from the National Weather Service and National Hurricane Center.

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38090
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8593 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:50 am

:cold: :froze: dry powder alert

Image
3 likes   
#neversummer

Wthrfan
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 102
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:49 am
Location: Edmond,OK

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8594 Postby Wthrfan » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:52 am

Definitely cold here in OKC but the moisture is a big bust, especially northern OK. We may get an inch here in the northern suburbs of OKC. Predictions for 6-10 inches up around Ponca City have been downgraded to 2-4 inches.

Brent, I hope you fare better in Tulsa.
2 likes   

rwfromkansas
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2627
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:47 am
Location: North Fort Worth

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8595 Postby rwfromkansas » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:53 am

Portastorm wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:Things look potentially more dangerous than before for DFW.

I still have nightmares about the FW pile-up. We went to school that day in Keller, and it was perfectly dry up here in N FW. But, that little patch on 35 created that problem down south just a few miles that caused such horror.

If I were a district, I would cancel to be safe tomorrow, but I bet most won't in DFW.

It's tricky because ultimately, a light bit of ice on the roads WILL evaporate. So, it depends on how much there is if it will be there in the morning. Most assume if there is ice at night there will be in the morning, but not with a dry cold north wind. That will evaporate a lot of it.

But, after 2021, I would frankly want to be more cautious.


Yep. Along those lines, me and txtwister78 were talking about schools down here (South Central Texas) could consider delayed openings due to the brutal (and dangerous) wind chills predicted for Wednesday and Thursday mornings. I'm surprised I have not seen much on that on social media.


Yeah, it's the super cold temps that magnify the situation IMO.
1 likes   

Stratton23
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2521
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:59 pm
Location: Katy, Tx

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8596 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:53 am

Doesnt look like winter is done in the first week of march, not from what ive been seeing and hearing from folks like ryab maue, even if its just 60’s and 40’s, bring it on! Sure beats the heck out of those 80’s any day of the week!
1 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38090
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8597 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:56 am

Wthrfan wrote:Definitely cold here in OKC but the moisture is a big bust, especially northern OK. We may get an inch here in the northern suburbs of OKC. Predictions for 6-10 inches up around Ponca City have been downgraded to 2-4 inches.

Brent, I hope you fare better in Tulsa.


Yeah it's supposed to pick up after lunch but I dunno... I mean this was a pretty fast flip and we've got like 10 hours ahead of us. You would think we're good but who knows :lol: when I checked the hi res models at 5am they all had 6 inches here

Even the NWS caved they were still lower than that earlier
2 likes   
#neversummer

User avatar
txtwister78
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1855
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:56 pm
Location: San Antonio

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8598 Postby txtwister78 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:07 pm

Portastorm wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:Things look potentially more dangerous than before for DFW.

I still have nightmares about the FW pile-up. We went to school that day in Keller, and it was perfectly dry up here in N FW. But, that little patch on 35 created that problem down south just a few miles that caused such horror.

If I were a district, I would cancel to be safe tomorrow, but I bet most won't in DFW.

It's tricky because ultimately, a light bit of ice on the roads WILL evaporate. So, it depends on how much there is if it will be there in the morning. Most assume if there is ice at night there will be in the morning, but not with a dry cold north wind. That will evaporate a lot of it.

But, after 2021, I would frankly want to be more cautious.


Yep. Along those lines, me and txtwister78 were talking about schools down here (South Central Texas) could consider delayed openings due to the brutal (and dangerous) wind chills predicted for Wednesday and Thursday mornings. I'm surprised I have not seen much on that on social media.


Yeah not much of a mention down here either so far but perhaps that will change if/when the extreme cold watch is upgraded to warning for Thursday morning?
2 likes   

Brent
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 38090
Age: 36
Joined: Sun May 16, 2004 10:30 pm
Location: Tulsa Oklahoma
Contact:

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8599 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:09 pm

Bismarck was only 7 degrees short of their all time record apparently :double: :cold:

11 days before March!
3 likes   
#neversummer

orangeblood
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3714
Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:14 pm
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#8600 Postby orangeblood » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:11 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Doesnt look like winter is done in the first week of march, not from what ive been seeing and hearing from folks like ryab maue, even if its just 60’s and 40’s, bring it on! Sure beats the heck out of those 80’s any day of the week!


Agreed, March looks below normal and maybe quite significantly. EPO looks like it's going to nose dive 1st of March
3 likes   


Return to “Winter Weather”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests