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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9081 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:35 pm

63F and not a cloud in the sky here. Needed this warm up. Three arctic blasts took a toll on me up here!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9082 Postby snownado » Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:37 pm

Quite a few brush and/or wildfires showing up on Satellite in OK and AR...
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9083 Postby snownado » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:55 pm

Temps overachieved by a few degrees today, reaching a high of 71*F at DFW.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9084 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:25 pm

Our local meteorologist posted this.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9085 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:38 pm

Horribly sad, and disappointing. Let's not stir the political pot on this forum though. Last time that happened, I witnessed the most illogical posts I've ever seen on this forum. Misinformation straight from a political source.
I've learned so much from this forum and lets not step into that ring again. I, for one, am not good at ignoring ignorant comments and posts.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9086 Postby ravyrn » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:10 pm

Was there a snow event in April around Easter one year in East Texas (Anderson County)? I wasn't living here at the time but I've heard coworkers talking about a snow event during that timeframe one year. Maybe around 2008? Did it really snow here that late one year?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9087 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:14 pm

ravyrn wrote:Was there a snow event in April around Easter one year in East Texas (Anderson County)? I wasn't living here at the time but I've heard coworkers talking about a snow event during that timeframe one year. Maybe around 2008? Did it really snow here that late one year?


It really did. It was wild. Maybe a couple inches at best but it happened.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9088 Postby Quixotic » Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:29 pm

ravyrn wrote:Was there a snow event in April around Easter one year in East Texas (Anderson County)? I wasn't living here at the time but I've heard coworkers talking about a snow event during that timeframe one year. Maybe around 2008? Did it really snow here that late one year?

2007. Had snow in DFW and accumulating snow west of here.

1987. Had accumulating thunder snow here in DFW. It was mid 30s but was snowing so hard we had 2-3”. That was April 1st.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9089 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:01 pm

Quixotic wrote:
ravyrn wrote:Was there a snow event in April around Easter one year in East Texas (Anderson County)? I wasn't living here at the time but I've heard coworkers talking about a snow event during that timeframe one year. Maybe around 2008? Did it really snow here that late one year?

2007. Had snow in DFW and accumulating snow west of here.

1987. Had accumulating thunder snow here in DFW. It was mid 30s but was snowing so hard we had 2-3”. That was April 1st.

I remember shopping for living room furniture in early April 2007 with light flurries in Grapevine. In early April 1996 I remember a lot of sleet mixed with rain in the afternoon north of the airport.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9090 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:10 pm

:uarrow: There have been a good number of March snowfall events in North Texas and the Rolling Plains over the years. Even a few in late March and early April.

These reports are straight from the DFW NWS site:
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March 20-21, 2010
An unusually strong and cold upper level low slowly moved along the Red River Valley on March 20 and 21. Heavy snowfall occurred on the backside of the low with measurable snowfall occurring mainly to the north of I-20.

A very localized and heavy band of snow developed during the early morning hours of the 21st, dumping 5 to 9 inches of snow across Collin County.

Some locations just 20 miles to the southwest of this band of snow only picked up 1 inch. Snow continued into the early afternoon hours on the 21st across East Texas before

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April 7-8, 2007
Snow fell in areas south of I-20 during the daytime hours of the Saturday before Easter. The highest amounts of 3 to5 inches were found in a band from Comanche and Goldthwaite to Waco and Temple/Killeen. Bluebonnets were already in bloom when this snow fell, making for unique pictures of this event.

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March 27, 2005
An upper level low produced a very localized narrow band of 1-2 inches of snow from Graham to Weatherford to Benbrook to Cleburne in the predawn hours of Easter morning. Most areas outside the snow band saw only moderate to heavy rain.
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April 5, 1996
Severe drought plagued North Texas throughout the winter months, but this Good Friday brought abundant rainfall and one of the heaviest April snowstorms on record.

Some sleet mixed with the rain before a complete transition to snow occurred west of a line from Montague to Weatherford to Eastland (though some light snow fell as far east as Fort Worth).

The heaviest snowfall occurred near the I-20 corridor where Sweetwater accumulated 18 inches. The 9.3 inches at Abilene remains an all-time 24-hour record. Six inches fell in Breckenridge.

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https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dsnows

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9091 Postby snownado » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:37 am

Since the topic has come up, I decided to dig further into historical data to gauge how likely (or unlikely) Spring snow might be.

The 30-year average (1991 - 2020) for March snowfall for DFW is 0.3".

Amongst the 127 years of official records, only 49 of those years (39%) had ANY snow. Of those 49 years, only 25 of them had MEASURABLE snowfall (meaning at least 0.1"). In other words, only 20% of all winters on record have observed more than a Trace of snowfall.

In essence, statistically-speaking, measurable snowfall in March is a 1-in-5 year occurrence while the observance of ANY snow is 1-in-2 year. Now this doesn't mean March snow will occur precisely every 5 / 2 years, merely that it has a ~40% and ~20% chance of happeninig in any given year.

So yes, in all likelihood, most of us will live long enough to see frozen precipitation* in DFW in March at some point again in the future. But it's far from a normal / recurring phenomena, and often times March will be a dud.

As far as April, there's only been 3 years on record with a T of snow (2%), with only 1 of those years being within the past 80 years. So while not impossible, it's statistically improbable most of us in DFW will ever witness frozen precipitation* (measurable or otherwise) in April.

*BTW, I will caveat all of this by mentioning some of these records are contaminated with sleet (not just straight snow) as well.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9092 Postby snownado » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:44 am

snownado wrote:Since the topic has come up, I decided to dig further into historical data to gauge how likely (or unlikely) Spring snow might be.

The 30-year average (1991 - 2020) for March snowfall for DFW is 0.3".

Amongst the 127 years of official records, only 49 of those years (39%) had ANY snow. Of those 49 years, only 25 of them had MEASURABLE snowfall (meaning at least 0.1"). In other words, only 20% of all winters on record have observed more than a Trace of snowfall.

In essence, statistically-speaking, measurable snowfall in March is a 1-in-5 year occurrence while the observance of ANY snow is 1-in-2 year. Now this doesn't mean March snow will occur precisely every 5 / 2 years, merely that it has a ~40% and ~20% chance of happeninig in any given year.

So yes, in all likelihood, most of us will live long enough to see frozen precipitation* in DFW in March at some point again in the future. But it's far from a normal / recurring phenomena, and often times March will be a dud.

As far as April, there's only been 3 years on record with a T of snow (2%), with only 1 of those years being within the past 80 years. So while not impossible, it's statistically improbable most of us in DFW will ever witness frozen precipitation* (measurable or otherwise) in April.

*BTW, I will caveat all of this by mentioning some of these records are contaminated with sleet (not just straight snow) as well.


Also, on a side note, I am a bit surprised to discover March averages more snow than both December and January (and that even December averages more snow than January).
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9093 Postby HockeyTx82 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:11 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Horribly sad, and disappointing. Let's not stir the political pot on this forum though. Last time that happened, I witnessed the most illogical posts I've ever seen on this forum. Misinformation straight from a political source.
I've learned so much from this forum and lets not step into that ring again. I, for one, am not good at ignoring ignorant comments and posts.


I saw this. I am not endorsing the source just posting this. I use a news agregator so I get all kinds of stuff.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/27/politics ... index.html

I always say somewhere in the middle is the truth and the folks with the loudest bull horn usually have an agenda on getting people amped up on either side.

What the one above is not saying is there are 13000 employees apparently while another one does. Not endorsing anything, just posting what I read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/clim ... trump.html
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9094 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:44 am

snownado wrote:
snownado wrote:Since the topic has come up, I decided to dig further into historical data to gauge how likely (or unlikely) Spring snow might be.

The 30-year average (1991 - 2020) for March snowfall for DFW is 0.3".

Amongst the 127 years of official records, only 49 of those years (39%) had ANY snow. Of those 49 years, only 25 of them had MEASURABLE snowfall (meaning at least 0.1"). In other words, only 20% of all winters on record have observed more than a Trace of snowfall.

In essence, statistically-speaking, measurable snowfall in March is a 1-in-5 year occurrence while the observance of ANY snow is 1-in-2 year. Now this doesn't mean March snow will occur precisely every 5 / 2 years, merely that it has a ~40% and ~20% chance of happeninig in any given year.

So yes, in all likelihood, most of us will live long enough to see frozen precipitation* in DFW in March at some point again in the future. But it's far from a normal / recurring phenomena, and often times March will be a dud.

As far as April, there's only been 3 years on record with a T of snow (2%), with only 1 of those years being within the past 80 years. So while not impossible, it's statistically improbable most of us in DFW will ever witness frozen precipitation* (measurable or otherwise) in April.

*BTW, I will caveat all of this by mentioning some of these records are contaminated with sleet (not just straight snow) as well.


Also, on a side note, I am a bit surprised to discover March averages more snow than both December and January (and that even December averages more snow than January).

Yep, historically Feb and Mar are or best snow months. January is dry typically. We basically can get snow between Halloween and Easter. Valentine's to Spring Break is the peak.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9095 Postby snownado » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:34 am

HockeyTx82 wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Horribly sad, and disappointing. Let's not stir the political pot on this forum though. Last time that happened, I witnessed the most illogical posts I've ever seen on this forum. Misinformation straight from a political source.
I've learned so much from this forum and lets not step into that ring again. I, for one, am not good at ignoring ignorant comments and posts.


I saw this. I am not endorsing the source just posting this. I use a news agregator so I get all kinds of stuff.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/27/politics ... index.html

I always say somewhere in the middle is the truth and the folks with the loudest bull horn usually have an agenda on getting people amped up on either side.

What the one above is not saying is there are 13000 employees apparently while another one does. Not endorsing anything, just posting what I read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/clim ... trump.html


NOAA has ~13,000 employees, while NWS (a sub-agency of NOAA) only has ~5,000 employees.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9096 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:59 am

HockeyTx82 wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Horribly sad, and disappointing. Let's not stir the political pot on this forum though. Last time that happened, I witnessed the most illogical posts I've ever seen on this forum. Misinformation straight from a political source.
I've learned so much from this forum and lets not step into that ring again. I, for one, am not good at ignoring ignorant comments and posts.


I saw this. I am not endorsing the source just posting this. I use a news agregator so I get all kinds of stuff.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/27/politics ... index.html

I always say somewhere in the middle is the truth and the folks with the loudest bull horn usually have an agenda on getting people amped up on either side.

What the one above is not saying is there are 13000 employees apparently while another one does. Not endorsing anything, just posting what I read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/27/clim ... trump.html


The issue is that the NWS and NOAA have been dealing with budget cuts and being understaffed for quite some time. I think the GFS being second to the Euro model for the longest is a perfect example of this. We are the leaders in the world in technology but were second in weather forecasting? Embarrassing. I expect this to continue due to these actions.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9097 Postby TomballEd » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:44 pm

Is there a 2025 South Central US or SE severe thread.?.? Tuesday looks interesting.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9098 Postby MGC » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:34 pm

Farewell and good riddance winter! Only time I enjoyed it was Jan 21st when 7 inches of beautiful snow fell, felt like a kid again! Lost all my fruit trees even though we wrapped them up......MGC
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9099 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Feb 28, 2025 2:39 pm

TomballEd wrote:Is there a 2025 South Central US or SE severe thread.?.? Tuesday looks interesting.


Yes, there's a Texas Spring thread in the USA / Caribbean Weather forum.

https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 4&t=124606
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#9100 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:59 pm

Hopefully we can get some more cold fronts in the next few week, this current spring weather is a literal crap show! I dont approve of it!
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