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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#681 Postby wxman22 » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:16 pm

Nothing has changed. The latest WPC forecast and NBM below.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#682 Postby snownado » Wed Apr 16, 2025 5:42 pm

wxman22 wrote:Nothing has changed. The latest WPC forecast and NBM below.

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https://i.ibb.co/VccwL02L/qpf-acc-imp-us-sc-1.png


We're specifically talking about trends with the the event this upcoming weekend (which has unquestionably been weaker & more progressive), just for clarification.

Even FWD really downplays the severe weather potential now in their latest AFD.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#683 Postby Brent » Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:07 pm

Now the NAM has a crashing cold front here Saturday morning with temperatures falling into the 40s :lol: :spam: :double:
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#684 Postby snownado » Wed Apr 16, 2025 11:40 pm

Brent wrote:Now the NAM has a crashing cold front here Saturday morning with temperatures falling into the 40s :lol: :spam: :double:


It looking to be an repeat of the last system...
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#685 Postby wxman22 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:47 am

Chances of seeing 2 inches or more. Models are hinting that there may be training storms along the stalled frontal boundary around the I-44 corridor. The WPC has also increased QPF here.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#686 Postby Brent » Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:09 am

wxman22 wrote:Chances of seeing 2 inches or more. Models are hinting that there may be training storms along the stalled frontal boundary around the I-44 corridor. The WPC has also increased QPF here.

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Yeah they are outright talking about flooding here on TV

The end of the NAM also has temperatures in the low 40s Sunday afternoon :lol: :cold: :double: the official forecasts have us in the 60s... Somebody gonna be very wrong
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#687 Postby wxman22 » Thu Apr 17, 2025 7:26 pm

Some of the Red River counties are now in a Moderate Risk for flash flooding from the WPC. They also mention that there is a chance DFW may be upgraded to a moderate risk depending on future model runs.

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Excessive Rainfall Discussion
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
808 PM EDT Thu Apr 17 2025
Day 3
Valid 12Z Sat Apr 19 2025 - 12Z Sun Apr 20 2025

...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM EASTERN
OKLAHOMA THROUGH MUCH OF SOUTHERN MISSOURI...

20Z Excessive Rainfall Discussion Update...
The 12Z suite of model guidance largely supports the placement and
amounts of QPF..although there has been a subtle westward shift
over the course if the past few model runs...especially noticeable
from parts of northeast Texas/southeast Oklahoma into Arkansas.
Trimmed a bit territory from outlook areas in this
region...although did not want to remove given the propensity for
convection to build into the deeper moisture and instability south
of the front with time even though the model QPF was focused in a
narrow channel. Pulled the southern end of the Moderate risk area
southward given the increase in WPC deterministic back towards the
Red River. Overall...the large scale synoptics have not changed
significantly so much of the previous discussion remains valid.

Bann

Previous Excessive Rainfall Discussion...
In coordination with the impacted forecast offices, a Moderate
Risk upgrade was introduced with this morning's ERO update. A
stationary front separating very warm and moisture-laden air to the
south from abnormally cold air to the north will stall out from
being a cold front in previous days. Weakening northeasterly flow
of cold, dry air on the north side of the front, spurred on by a
Canadian high over the Great Lakes will contrast with an ever
increasing supply of hot and humid air straight out of the Gulf
being advected northward on up to 50 kt winds across Texas and into
the frontal interface from north Texas through Oklahoma and
Missouri. Meanwhile in the upper levels, a potent shortwave,
previously an upper level low will eject eastward out of the
mountains and into this warm and humid air mass. This will result
in cyclogenesis across Oklahoma by Sunday morning. Until that
happens though, the front will be largely stationary, with the warm
humid air tracking northeastward on one side, and cool, dry air
tracking southwestward on the cold side. The abundance of moisture
and cold pools from Friday night's storms will support continued
shower and thunderstorm development south of the front. As the
shortwave approaches, additional shower and thunderstorm
development will occur, and with stronger storms due to the added
forcing as the surface low develops to the west.

The southerly flow of humid air will cause the storms to run into
the Ozarks of Oklahoma, Arkansas, and especially southern Missouri
on Saturday. The mountains will further uplift the moisture,
resulting additional locally heavy rainfall. The Ozarks are known
for being particularly flash flood prone due to the mountains
helping funnel the water quickly into the river valleys, so this
prolonged period of heavy rainfall is likely to cause some of the
worst impacts to occur in these regions.

As the storms track northeastward across Missouri, the front is
likely to direct them into the St. Louis metro. In coordination
with LSX/St. Louis forecast office, the Moderate Risk's
northeasternmost extent includes the St. Louis metro. While the
storms may not be quite as strong as compared with areas further
south and west by the time they reach St. Louis, the urban corridor
and confluence of major rivers in the area may exacerbate urban
flooding concerns as repeated rounds of heavy rain likely move over
the city.

Some of the guidance (RRFS/UKMET/CMC) are favoring the southern end
of the ERO risk areas across Texas and Oklahoma as being the area
with the heaviest rain. Should that occur, then, the Dallas-Fort
Worth Metroplex will also be at higher risk for flash flooding, and
the Moderate Risk may need to be expanded southwestward with future
runs.
There were 2 camps of guidance, largely split between foreign
and domestic, favoring the southern and northeastern ends
respectively. To account for these factors, the Slight and Marginal
Risk were expanded northeastward along the frontal interface to the
IL/IN border for the Slight, and well into northern Ohio for the
Marginal.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#688 Postby Brent » Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:19 am

Not to be lost on the weekend storms but next week is looking very active again after a brief break later Sunday into Tuesday. No shortage of things to talk about

Might be getting near the peak of our severe season soon
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#689 Postby wxman22 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:19 am

The moderate risk for flooding was shifted west along the I-44 corridor.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#690 Postby wxman22 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:12 am

The HRRR shows multiple rounds of training thunderstorms tomorrow up here. Along with some hailers.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#691 Postby wxman22 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:52 am

There’s a tight gradient over North Texas this weekend.The HRRR is showing nearly 5 inches here this weekend.The location of the stalled frontal boundary looks to keep most of the heavy rain out of DFW. More widespread Diurnal driven precip looks to be in the forecast for the state next week though.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#692 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:49 pm

Today looks pretty messy, doubt we see a whole lot of tornado action but there could be a couple. Thick cloud cover still and the front is already to OKC. Should be some solid wind/hail producers though.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#693 Postby HockeyTx82 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:47 pm

I've got church this evening in Dallas over around 9ish, and then midnight service in Dallas tomorrow.

Hopefully the weather stays somewhat calm.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#694 Postby CaptinCrunch » Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:36 pm

Precipitation amounts across DFW won't be what was forecast that's for sure. Heaviest amounts are now back to the NW across Wise county and NW of there.

Just like the winter precipitation maps, it's all just pretty colors days out, but when it's time for the show you're left with disappointment and frustration.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#695 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:17 pm

New MD from SPC says hail up to 4.25 inches possible :double:

Not what I was expecting for a 15% day lol
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#696 Postby wxman22 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:32 pm

Watch incoming.

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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#697 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:37 pm

The NWS shows only .25 to .5 inch for most of DFW now.

Keeps dropping…

When you need a front to be progressive it doesn’t do it.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#698 Postby Edwards Limestone » Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:15 pm

It only rains in Oklahoma/AR these days. All we get in TX is humidity, wind, and drizzle.

Hard to get excited about pretty maps that never pan out.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#699 Postby txtwister78 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:41 pm

Cloud cover across the state today has helped keep a lid on things so far. SPC meso discussion/watch issuance looking a bit more suspect based on current trends in my opinion.
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Re: Texas Spring 2025

#700 Postby Brent » Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:15 pm

Front ahead of schedule here
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