ATL: BARRY - Remnants - Discussion

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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#41 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:20 am

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06/29 12:32 | 08 | 1008mb(e) | 39kts (39kts) | 29kts (32kts)
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Note: "In. Flt" is max inbound flight level wind. "In. Sfc" is max inbound surface wind, estimated by SFMR or visually. If outbound wind is reported, then highest wind, inbound or outbound from center, is in parenthesis. Winds usually averaged over 10s period. Extrap. MSLPs have (e) next to them. Add missed obs.
Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 29th day of the month at 12:56Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF97-5306
Tropical Depression: Two (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 3
Observation Number: 08

A. Time of Center Fix: 29th day of the month at 12:32:40Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 20.13N 95.92W
B. Center Fix Location: 196 statute miles (316 km) to the SE (140°) from Tampico, Tamaulipas, Mexico.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 749m (2,457ft) at 925mb
D. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 1008mb (29.77 inHg) - Extrapolated
E. Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center (Undecoded): NA
F. Eye Character: Not Available
G. Eye Shape: Not Available
H. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 29kts (33.4mph)
I. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 1 nautical miles to the ENE (60°) of center fix at 12:32:00Z
J. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 136° at 39kts (From the SE at 44.9mph)
K. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles to the ENE (67°) of center fix at 12:30:00Z
L. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 32kts (36.8mph)
M. Location & Time of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Outbound: 10 nautical miles (12 statute miles) to the WSW (256°) of center fix at 12:36:00Z
N. Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: From 300° at 22kts (From the WNW at 25.3mph)
O. Location & Time of the Maximum Flight Level Wind Outbound: 8 nautical miles to the WSW (254°) of center fix at 12:35:30Z
P. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 21°C (70°F) at a pressure alt. of 764m (2,507ft)
Q. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 22°C (72°F) at a pressure alt. of 769m (2,523ft)
R. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 8°C (46°F)
R. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
S. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
S. Fix Level: 925mb
T. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
T. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile

Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...

Maximum Flight Level Wind: 39kts (~ 44.9mph) which was observed 8 nautical miles to the ENE (67°) from the flight level center at 12:30:00Z
Sea Level Pressure Extrapolation From: 925mb

Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...

CLIMBED FROM 025 FT TO 050 FT 1235Z 15 MILES OUT FROM CNTR FIX ON NW LEG DUE TO CONVECTION.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#42 Postby underthwx » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:35 am

wxman57 wrote:Ha! I have TWO generators now. Ordered the whole-house generator early last August and it was installed 8 months later in April. I got my portable generator repaired, as it wouldn't start during Beryl due to a bad oil level sensor. I have two generators and two separate transfer switches at my electrical panel. This is no Beryl, thankfully.

I have my generator ready to go this season as well. Good morning btw everyone.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#43 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:36 am

wxman57 wrote:Ha! I have TWO generators now. Ordered the whole-house generator early last August and it was installed 8 months later in April. I got my portable generator repaired, as it wouldn't start during Beryl due to a bad oil level sensor. I have two generators and two separate transfer switches at my electrical panel. This is no Beryl, thankfully.


Solar panels and batteries for me.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#44 Postby Pasmorade » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:56 am

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WTNT22 KNHC 291453
TCMAT2

TROPICAL STORM BARRY FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 4
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022025
1500 UTC SUN JUN 29 2025

TROPICAL STORM CENTER LOCATED NEAR 20.4N 96.2W AT 29/1500Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 30 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OR 310 DEGREES AT 5 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 1006 MB
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 35 KT WITH GUSTS TO 45 KT.
34 KT....... 30NE 0SE 0SW 0NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 20.4N 96.2W AT 29/1500Z
AT 29/1200Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 20.1N 96.0W

FORECAST VALID 30/0000Z 21.2N 97.2W
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.
34 KT... 50NE 0SE 0SW 0NW.

FORECAST VALID 30/1200Z 22.0N 98.2W...INLAND
MAX WIND 30 KT...GUSTS 40 KT.

FORECAST VALID 01/0000Z...DISSIPATED

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 20.4N 96.2W

INTERMEDIATE PUBLIC ADVISORY...WTNT32 KNHC/MIATCPAT2...AT 29/1800Z

NEXT ADVISORY AT 29/2100Z

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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#45 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:05 am

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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#46 Postby chaser1 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:12 am

Once again, a truly classic satellite presentation that says all that need be said. What I would give to see anyone at landfall holding a hand held anemometer :na:
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#47 Postby mpic » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:12 am

wxman57 wrote:Ha! I have TWO generators now. Ordered the whole-house generator early last August and it was installed 8 months later in April. I got my portable generator repaired, as it wouldn't start during Beryl due to a bad oil level sensor. I have two generators and two separate transfer switches at my electrical panel. This is no Beryl, thankfully.

Lucky you on the whole house...way out of the financial ballpark for me. This one should run my refrigerator, a fan and a light. Better than nothing lol.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#48 Postby TallyTracker » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:12 am

I went to the satellite imagery and would never have guessed there was a tropical storm there. It looks like a linear squall line. There is little definition to the clouds to even indicate a circulation with any depth above the surface. I’m not surprised there are TS surface winds since those can be generated by thunderstorm complexes. This is a marginal tropical cyclone at best.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#49 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:22 am

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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#50 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:28 am

My 13/6/3 office contest numbers are in trouble if the NHC is naming things like this a TS. Didn't know a 39kt wind gust was reason to upgrade to a TS.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#51 Postby weeniepatrol » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:32 am

Every iteration of Barry has an absolutely nauseating satellite presentation. Except for maybe 2001
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#52 Postby WeatherBoy2000 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:07 am

weeniepatrol wrote:Every iteration of Barry has an absolutely nauseating satellite presentation. Except for maybe 2001


This is a worse version of Barry 2013, which is saying something.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#53 Postby Tailgater33 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:37 am

TallyTracker wrote:I went to the satellite imagery and would never have guessed there was a tropical storm there. It looks like a linear squall line. There is little definition to the clouds to even indicate a circulation with any depth above the surface. I’m not surprised there are TS surface winds since those can be generated by thunderstorm complexes. This is a marginal tropical cyclone at best.


I totally agreed up until the last few images on the hi res visible, the shear must let up a bit temporarily
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#54 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:05 pm

Peak Flight-Level Winds: 49kt at 16:48z
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#55 Postby sasha_B » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:15 pm

The latest recon data does seem to suggest that Barry has strengthened at least a little, despite its unimpressive appearance.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#56 Postby TallyTracker » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:21 pm

sasha_B wrote:The latest recon data does seem to suggest that Barry has strengthened at least a little, despite its unimpressive appearance.


The question is are those flight level winds translating to the surface. With the poor convective structure, I’d say it’s a lower translation rate than normal.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#57 Postby LarryWx » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:23 pm

This technically may not be a 2nd JB “ham sandwich” due to threatening land, but it surely isn’t anything more than a Rueben.
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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#58 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:55 pm

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#59 Postby Nimbus » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:30 pm

Some dry shear off Mexico blowing the tops off and Barry will be inland soon with just a few heavy thunderstorms and some gusty winds.

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Re: ATL: BARRY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#60 Postby JetFuel_SE » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:34 pm

Nimbus wrote:Some dry shear off Mexico blowing the tops off and Barry will be inland soon with just a few heavy thunderstorms and some gusty winds.

https://i.imgur.com/yXohS0M.gif

"Just a few heavy thunderstorms" can absolutely cause disastrous flooding, never underestimate them.
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