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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#441 Postby zzzh » Fri Aug 15, 2025 5:36 pm

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#442 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:11 pm

981.4MB extrapolated this pass. Deepening at a good pace now. Hasn’t reached the peak NE winds yet.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#443 Postby zzzh » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:27 pm

New drop showed 984/18kt
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#444 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:38 pm

I’d say 75 kt/982 mbar is a good estimate based on this last recon pass.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#445 Postby weeniepatrol » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:40 pm

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Outflow has become quite impressive.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#446 Postby StormWeather » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:41 pm

aspen wrote:I’d say 75 kt/982 mbar is a good estimate based on this last recon pass.

Personally I would go 70 kts as a blends of measurements from recon.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#447 Postby abajan » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:47 pm

weeniepatrol wrote:https://i.imgur.com/kxjVhU4.png

Outflow has become quite impressive.

Yep. Our awesome sunset this evening can attest to this: cirrostratus galore.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#448 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:47 pm

Looks like we have an eye now
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#449 Postby StormWeather » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:50 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Looks like we have an eye now
https://i.imgur.com/SOkiFRE.gif

Infrared definitely shows the eye temp trying to warm up again as the eye try to visibly appear.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#450 Postby Hurricane2022 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:53 pm

Now up to 75/982!
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#451 Postby sasha_B » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:11 pm

Looks like the eye is trying to clear, though it's not clear how long that trend will continue. May need some structural improvements for pressures to really start crashing but we are seeing exactly what the forecast predicted in terms of intensity....RI will likely continue for some time.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#452 Postby Hurricane2022 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:11 pm

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#453 Postby sasha_B » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:48 pm

I know we're all watching for the direct obs. from recon, but the DT from NOAA/OSPO is up to T5.0. (Objective estimates remain lower, due in part to UW-CIMSS ADT apparently missing the eye.)
20250816 0000 19.4 58.6 T5.0/5.0 05L ERIN
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#454 Postby zzzh » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:49 pm

F. CLOSED
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#455 Postby storm_in_a_teacup » Fri Aug 15, 2025 7:55 pm

USTropics wrote:Erin is looking better this morning, with improved convective banding in the past few hours. I'll go through what I've seen on satellite imagery this morning and what was corroborated by the two recon flight missions. We're likely to see a few more 'pulse up' phases where the circulation and wind field increases in diameter, and a bit of reconfiguration is required. I'll outline this process from my morning analysis below.

This was the first visible satellite imagery from this morning (~6AM eastern time), and I've outlined what I'm seeing from the cloud features. Erin is finally able to really build up her moisture profile with increasing SSTs and decreasing shear values, and this is most evident by the ability to produce a convective inflow canopy out in front of the main circulation (teal/blue). This is allowing for some mixing of the dry air/subsidence before the air mass enters the inflow channels of Erin. There was still an evident dry slot and dry air mass to the east of Erin (orange), and evidence of two vertical hot towers (VHTs, green) which was the catalyst for producing an initial pinhole eyewall that recon found early this morning:
https://i.imgur.com/Qoufe3Y.png

This was confirmed by recon and can be analyzed in CIMSS products:
https://i.imgur.com/3vqMj2f.png

Moving forward an hour 1/2 later, we can clearly see the signs of an eyewall formation in its beginning stages (teal, pinhole formation is gone), and it appears the dry air slot is eroding the southwest periphery (dashed red):
https://i.imgur.com/boAkZ6W.png

Move forward another hour, and our eyewall has rotated, so that the open slot is now located to the northwest (confirmed by recon at this time). The eyewall structure is starting to become more circular, and there are further signs that Erin is able to properly fight off the dry air intrusions this go around. While dry air generally inhibits widespread hurricane development by suppressing convection and capping its vertical depth, it can paradoxically contribute to the formation of vertical hot towers. I have circled these in green, and specifically we are looking in the cloud decks of the inflow bands:
https://i.imgur.com/GvHVBvH.png

This is a bit more technical, but if you want to understand what exactly is going on here, I'll break it down further:
  • Dry air/SAL enters the hurricane's circulation typically at the mid-levels (700mb).
  • Upon intrusion, the dry air mixes with the storm's moist air, leading to evaporation of raindrops and cloud droplets. This evaporation is a cooling process (evaporative cooling), which lowers temperatures in the mid-to-lower troposphere.
  • The mid-level cooling from dry air intrusion steepens the vertical temperature lapse rate (the rate at which temperature decreases with height).
  • This increases convective instability, as the cooler mid-level air overlays warmer, moist air near the surface, making the atmosphere more prone to vigorous updrafts where sufficient moisture converges.
  • In the rainbands, low-level moist air (drawn in by the storm's inflow) encounters this heightened instability.
  • The contrast between the dry mid-levels and moist low-levels amplifies conditional instability, allowing parcels of air to rise more rapidly and with greater buoyancy once lifted.

Here is the full animation of visible imagery:
https://i.imgur.com/PZi1bqZ.gif

You can really see these cool VHT processes with the dry air using mesoscale imagery and speeding it up:
https://i.imgur.com/EQFH6Q4.gif

Expect more of these pulse up and reconfiguration episodes of the inner core as Erin progresses today.


So this must be the whole “dry air intrusion increases lightning” factoid I’ve been abusing in my stories lol
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#456 Postby HurricaneRyan » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:00 pm

Idk why but Erin reminds me of Felix '95, Edouard/Fran '96, Isabel '03 and Irene '11 just based off the track, time of year or potential intensity. Literally feels like a classic/infamous storm in the making.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#457 Postby AtlanticWind » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:03 pm

Looks like maybe a pinhole eye on last couple of sat. Pics
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#458 Postby Hurricane2022 » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:09 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:Looks like maybe a pinhole eye on last couple of sat. Pics

Yeah :cold:
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#459 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 15, 2025 8:40 pm

AtlanticWind wrote:Looks like maybe a pinhole eye on last couple of sat. Pics

Recon says it’s 12nm wide. Small, but not pinhole. It only looks smaller because it’s still in the very early stages of clearing out. However, as Erin intensifies, it’s possible the eye could shrink below 10nm.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Hurricane - Discussion

#460 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Aug 15, 2025 9:00 pm

This is Bernie Rayno Accuweather post this afternoon.
I believe that pretty much 70w to be the best bet. The ideal outcome.

He's a little cautious about the OBX. Not on landfall but adverse affects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMFjD4-3IvM
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