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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#101 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:06 am

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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#102 Postby TampaWxLurker » Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:08 am

Chances it gets tagged as a PTC at 11 by NHC?
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#103 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:34 am

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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#104 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:47 am

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12z 20.0N / 70.7W


Do we think that naked broad swirl is the circulation moving @WNW from @20.0N / 70.7W?? :?:
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#105 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:53 am

Blown Away wrote: https://i.postimg.cc/hvwmYmSr/goes19-vi ... 251257.gif

12z 20.0N / 70.7W


Do we think that naked broad swirl is the circulation moving @WNW from @20.0N / 70.7W?? :?:


We will find out the exact position when recon goes this afternoon.
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#106 Postby TomballEd » Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:07 am

Looking at Weather Nerds satellite with lightning, and although there is a circulation north of La Republica Dominicana/Haiti, the storms are all south of Hispaniola and I wouldn't be shocked if a new center developed under the storms. I don't know how much drying occurs down sloping from the mountains but that would add extra difficulties for the low level center from developing storms.

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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#107 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:09 am

Some warm spots starting to show up on IR
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#108 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:12 am

Hispaniola topography. Note that the eastern side is not as mountainous
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#109 Postby Blown Away » Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:14 am

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12z Position was 20N/70.7W and this swirl is moving quickly well S and W of 12z guidance?
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#110 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:40 am

cycloneye wrote:
Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/hvwmYmSr/goes19-vis-swir-94-L-202509251257.gif [/url]

12z 20.0N / 70.7W


Do we think that naked broad swirl is the circulation moving @WNW from @20.0N / 70.7W?? :?:


We will find out the exact position when recon goes this afternoon.



It appears to me that the lowest pressure at the surface is just at the N coast of Hisp., but the actual center of the broader system may be over central Hisp. Note I don't see any stations there in the mountains so we won't know and recon wont do dropsondes there either. The low level cloud motion does not conflict with this. I checked the CIMMS vort map as well so that may be the case. We shall see as this moves offshore, and recon gets more data on the south side.



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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#111 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:46 am

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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#112 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:10 am

Puerto Rico got between 1-5 inches of rain from wave 94L.

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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#113 Postby sasha_B » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:46 am

Looking more and more like an "interesting" setup for the Charleston area. Last hurricane landfall in the Lowcountry was Ian 2022 (its third landfall, as a Category 1 near Georgetown) iirc. The track guidance spread is still fairly wide & I'll leave making explicit predictions to the professionals, but the local NWS office has started mentioning Invest 94L on their outlooks, which is generally my cue to start taking the prospect of local tropical impacts more seriously.
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#114 Postby chaser1 » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:47 am

cycloneye wrote:
Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/hvwmYmSr/goes19-vis-swir-94-L-202509251257.gif [/url]

12z 20.0N / 70.7W


Do we think that naked broad swirl is the circulation moving @WNW from @20.0N / 70.7W?? :?:


We will find out the exact position when recon goes this afternoon.


My guess would place a broad LLC at about 20.5 N & 70.7 W, so basically about a 1/2 degree north of Best Track. On the otherhand if no lower pressures existed anywhere near that point then a LLC developing south of the "Rock" is certainly plausible. Models certainly don't reflect that nor is there any evidence of that thus far based on visible satellite. Its hard to ignore the impressive convection south of the Island though.
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#115 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:50 am

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NATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#116 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:13 pm

Tiburon Peninsula firing off on schedule.
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (70/90)

#117 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:30 pm

No Air Force recon today but tommorow afternoon it will be flying. To see the complete TCPOD, go to the 94L recon thread

A. THE TEAL 75 AND TEAL 76 MISSIONS INTO AL94 TASKED IN TCPOD
25-116 WERE CANCELED BY NHC AT 25/1200Z.

B. THE TEAL 74 MISSION INTO AL94 HAS BEEN CHANGED TO A LOW-LEVEL INVEST NEAR 21.9N 74.2W FOR 26/1730Z, WITH THE
TAKEOFF TIME CHANGED 6 HOURS TO 26/1545Z
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NATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#118 Postby Fancy1002 » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:32 pm

It seems like the only thing potentially holding future Imelda back is the uncertain interactions with Humberto.
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Discussion (80/90)

#119 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:33 pm


Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Thu Sep 25 2025

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America:

Active Systems:
The National Hurricane Center is issuing advisories on Hurricane
Gabrielle, located several hundred miles west of the Azores, and on
Tropical Storm Humberto, over the subtropical central Atlantic.

Central Caribbean Sea and Southwestern Atlantic (AL94):
Showers and thunderstorms are increasing in association with a
a tropical wave located near Hispaniola and the Turks and Caicos
Islands. An area of low pressure is expected to form along the
wave tonight or early Friday when it moves near the southeast
Bahamas. This low is expected to become a tropical depression when
it is in the vicinity of the central and northwest Bahamas late
Friday or over the weekend and then track northwestward or
northward over the southwestern Atlantic.

Interests in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, the Turks and Caicos
Islands, and the Bahamas should monitor the progress of this
system. Regardless of development, heavy rains and gusty winds
are likely across that region during the next couple of days.
While there is significant uncertainty in the long-range track and
intensity of the system, the chances of wind, rainfall, and storm
surge impacts for a portion of the southeast U.S. coast are
increasing. Interests in that area should monitor the progress of
the system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...80 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...90 percent.
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Re: NATL: INVEST 94L - Models

#120 Postby Pelicane » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:36 pm

Fancy1002 wrote:It seems like the only thing potentially holding future Imelda back is the uncertain interactions with Humberto.


The trough in the SE will also be injecting dry air into the system.
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