NATL: MELISSA - Aftermath - Discussion: Josh Morgerman video of Melissa is up

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#521 Postby Nuno » Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:39 pm

Pelicane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Josh still not ready to go out as he keeps analyzing where will be best for him to do the chase.

 https://x.com/iCyclone/status/1981785313417593220



I'm guessing Cuba, since there's less uncertainty that it will have direct impacts there.


He really shouldn't. Cuba evacuates residents directly in the path of such strong storms. The cuban highway doesnt even reach the part of cuba that is predicted to be impacted. There's very little fuel and resources in cuba, it just seems like an awful idea. I hope he doesnt go there.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#522 Postby Teban54 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:10 pm

Looks like Melissa's pressure has mostly been holding steady at ~993 mb during the 3 recon passes from two different planes, and wind hasn't picked up either. The LLC is also at the NW corner of the deepest convection, so there may still be some shear present.

We're probably not seeing RI just yet... Even though it will come soon enough.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#523 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:24 pm

Teban54 wrote:Looks like Melissa's pressure has mostly been holding steady at ~993 mb during the 3 recon passes from two different planes, and wind hasn't picked up either. The LLC is also at the NW corner of the deepest convection, so there may still be some shear present.

We're probably not seeing RI just yet... Even though it will come soon enough.


Also there may be still some tilt captured by the TSR.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#524 Postby Beef Stew » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:39 pm

My comment about RI appearing imminent seems to have been premature- there still is some structural organization yet to be completed before Melissa can truly take off. That being said, I’d be shocked if she’s not primed and ready to go by the morning.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#525 Postby MarioProtVI » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:46 pm

Tilt is actually increasing on the latest pass. Probably won’t see a hurricane until tomorrow afternoon as as RI should start then. Still a lot of work needed to be done to the low level core.
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#526 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:58 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Tilt is actually increasing on the latest pass. Probably won’t see a hurricane until tomorrow afternoon as as RI should start then. Still a lot of work needed to be done to the low level core.


Agreed. I can't see it becoming more than a low-end category 1 in the near term as it still has a bit of shear to contend with. But it's getting closer...
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#527 Postby Blown Away » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:58 pm

I don’t think it would take much over the next 72 hours for the core of Melissa to slide just E of Jamaica. JMHO
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#528 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:05 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Tilt is actually increasing on the latest pass. Probably won’t see a hurricane until tomorrow afternoon as as RI should start then. Still a lot of work needed to be done to the low level core.

Yep, more work than I would have guessed earlier based on its appearance. Still, the fact that it managed to shed about 10mb today while getting its core together is rather impressive. Kind of reminds me of Ian before it took off when it was in the Caribbean. Delayed start, but more than made up for it, so people better not sleep on this thing.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#529 Postby HurricaneBelle » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:23 pm

Surprised there isn't a Hurricane Warning for Jamaica. Guess it's a timing thing?
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#530 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:30 pm

Teban54 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Oh boy, Jamaica. A prayer for them.

https://x.com/burgwx/status/1981855179982139877

I'll also add that:
  • A few more recent high-profile storms since Gilbert were originally expected to hit Jamaica but ultimately dodged it, most notably Ivan and Beryl. Even among weather fans in the US context, this has sometimes created the impression of a "Jamaica shield". I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened locally.
  • As seen in the tweet, most major hurricanes passing close to Jamaica move east to west. But Melissa is now expected to move SW to NE, putting the strongest quadrant for winds and surge directly through the island.

Emily 2005 as well
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#531 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:32 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ht7ukn6.png
Still needs to work on the structure

I was gonna say it doesn't look nearly as good as it did a couple of hours ago
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#532 Postby Category5Kaiju » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:37 pm

Looks like Melissa found the "favorable" 10-knot wind shear pocket after days of being hit with 15-30 knots

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#533 Postby aspen » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:49 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ht7ukn6.png
Still needs to work on the structure

I was gonna say it doesn't look nearly as good as it did a couple of hours ago

The pressure gradient is also a lot broader too now.

Perhaps there was an initial attempt to form a tight core, but some shear disrupted it and now it’s just forming a larger core instead.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#534 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:07 pm

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#535 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:13 pm

aspen wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:
zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ht7ukn6.png
Still needs to work on the structure

I was gonna say it doesn't look nearly as good as it did a couple of hours ago

The pressure gradient is also a lot broader too now.

Perhaps there was an initial attempt to form a tight core, but some shear disrupted it and now it’s just forming a larger core instead.

This would make sense. It seems to have taken on a ccc type appearance for now and that persistent band to the southwest doesn’t seem to be getting absorbed so it’s likely competing for energy at the moment. Won’t see rapid intensification until it weakens.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#536 Postby Hurricane2022 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:30 pm

It feels like I've been tracking this storm for many weeks, what a tiresome and BORING thing. May God help Jamaica, Cuba, and Hispaniola, because only He knows where this mess is headed :2gunfire: :37: :sadly:
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#537 Postby Hurricane2022 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:48 pm

Interesting, recon shows Melissa just south of 16N, at ~15.9°. If this goes more south than forecasted, the initial 165+ kt/890- mb HAFS A & B forecasts have higher chances of verifying I guess.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#538 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:05 pm

That southern band has weakened a bit and the western side of the cdo looks to be very gradually expanding again, suggesting the shear impacting it may be starting to decrease.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#539 Postby TomballEd » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:17 pm

Am I mistaking the Tropical Tidbits recon map? Melissa looks like it is drifting SSW.

I could be wrong.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#540 Postby 869MB » Fri Oct 24, 2025 11:18 pm



It may also be a little ironic that the Los Angeles Dodgers won the World Series in 1988 as well. Some of the hurricane models are still depicting a disastrous Hurricane Mitch type of scenario for Jamaica. We shall see how this plays out.
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