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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#981 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:26 pm

kevin wrote:FL winds only peaked at 119 kt this pass which still doesn't support much more than 110 kt at the surface. The extrapolated pressure has fallen from 946.9 mb with 7 kt -> 946.2 mb to 943.6 mb with 9 kt -> 942.7 mb. That's roughly a 3.5 mb drop in 80 minutes or 2.6 mb/h. Definitely deepening, not per se at the rate that one would expect with a pinhole. But if an EWRC cycle were starting you'd expect practically zero deepening which is also not the case. Still a bit of a puzzle, but she is getting stronger at the moment.

You can't use flight level wind for pressure conversion
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#982 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:27 pm

Anticyclone is moving west away from Melissa.
Wrong direction if Melissa wants to strengthen further.

Vort interference at 925 and 500 mb.

Strong infeed now of EPAC high-TPW air thru southern Nicaragua.

IMHO, 50/50 chance this could strengthen more near and after dusk.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#983 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:27 pm

aspen wrote:Even as a mature hurricane, Melissa isn’t making it easy on us lol.

Between its incredibly complex track forecast for the better part of a week and its stair-stepping, erratic intensification phase, this is likely one of the most difficult TCs to forecast and assess in a long time.


So far the NHC has done really well with track. They had one little hiccup when she was first forming but since then it's been rock solid.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#984 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:34 pm

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#985 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:37 pm

A C6 eye? Hello?

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URNT12 KNHC 261823
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL132025
A. 26/18:05:40Z
B. 16.38 deg N 076.93 deg W
C. 700 mb 2651 m
D. 945 mb
E. 065 deg 9 kt
F. CLOSED
G. C6
H. 106 kt
I. 217 deg 3 nm 18:04:30Z
J. 308 deg 107 kt
K. 219 deg 5 nm 18:04:00Z
L. 115 kt
M. 025 deg 9 nm 18:08:30Z
N. 116 deg 119 kt
O. 024 deg 11 nm 18:09:00Z
P. 10 C / 3047 m
Q. 20 C / 3041 m
R. 8 C / NA
S. 12345 / 07
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF307 1613A MELISSA OB 15
MAX FL WIND 122 KT 110 / 9 NM 16:42:00Z
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#986 Postby Teban54 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:45 pm

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#987 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:51 pm

As advertised.
Down to a pinhole.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#988 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:56 pm

Given the discussion we’ve had earlier in the day about this persistent band feature, I’m very closely watching what happens with the newer convection that has popped on the southeastern, eastern side. So far, it seems to be streaming northward, eventually into the circulation, as opposed to staying put and stealing energy from the circulation like the previous band did. If this is actually true, I think it should be noted that there’s a distinction between these two types and their impacts on storm intensification trends, but we’ll have to wait and see.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#989 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Oct 26, 2025 1:58 pm

GCANE wrote:As advertised.
Down to a pinhole.

Gotta give credit here, you were right. I didn’t think the eye would contract to this degree when it was originally forming.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#990 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:14 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
GCANE wrote:As advertised.
Down to a pinhole.

Gotta give credit here, you were right. I didn’t think the eye would contract to this degree when it was originally forming.

I knew the eye was going to contract, but I didn't think it was going to contract to a pinhole this quickly
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#991 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:21 pm

Next thing to watch for is a drop in relative humidity in the eye.
That will be the onset of an EWRC.
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#992 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:24 pm

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#993 Postby Travorum » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:26 pm

939.9mb extrap so deepening at a steady rate, 124kt FL wind in the N and a 132kt SFMR reading. Blending those evenly would actually support 120 if you trust SFMR.

Edit: I missed the 129kt FL wind 30 seconds earlier, an even blend of those would support 125kts.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#994 Postby WaveBreaking » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:26 pm

939.9mbar extrap MSLP
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#995 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

SFMR could support 125-130 knots but flight level winds aren't quite there. Regardless Melissa is definitely intensifying again. Eye temps back up to 18.03C.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#996 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

Deepening at a decent pace now. I’m struggling to find evidence of a double wind maxima in the wind measurement plot. If an outer eyewall is developing, it’s not showing up that much at the moment.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#997 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:939.9mbar extrap MSLP


Pressure continues to drop Rapidly. This is a scary situation. I wonder if that NE eyewall drop is verified. It had 132kts at the surface.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#998 Postby Hurricane2022 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

If it wasn't a C4 earlier, then it is one now. Clearly intensifying again.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#999 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:28 pm

The moat comes and the moat goes,
What's up with that?

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1000 Postby GCANE » Sun Oct 26, 2025 2:30 pm

Feeling the effects of the new infeed of high-TPW air from the EPAC funneling thru southern Nicaragua.
As advertised.
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