NATL: MELISSA - Aftermath - Discussion: Josh Morgerman video of Melissa is up

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1041 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:00 pm

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1042 Postby Fancy1002 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:02 pm

I think it’s Miss piggy that is south of Cuba and heading towards Melissa. Hopefully it can get there at a good time.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1043 Postby zzzh » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:06 pm

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I think the plane won't catch the peak
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1044 Postby PavelGaborik10 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:10 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ihimXjF.png
I think the plane won't catch the peak


This storm is 40 hours away from landfall.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1045 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:13 pm

zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ihimXjF.png
I think the plane won't catch the peak

I mean, a newer scan has this. The moat is much smaller
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1046 Postby aspen » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:20 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
zzzh wrote:https://i.imgur.com/ihimXjF.png
I think the plane won't catch the peak

I mean, a newer scan has this. The moat is much smaller
https://s12.gifyu.com/images/b3uA0.png
https://s12.gifyu.com/images/b3uA0.png

I wonder if we may see an eyewall meld. HAFS runs have shown close concentric eyewalls similar to this that don’t trigger a full-blown EWRC.

Either way, recon should be close enough for us to extrapolate backwards if necessary.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1047 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:23 pm

Live stream from Jamaica...while it lasts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvhfvU6SWqc
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1048 Postby Sciencerocks » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:24 pm

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1049 Postby Teban54 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:24 pm

Melissa still looks almost as good as it has been in the past hour -- which is itself the best that it had ever looked all day, with the perfectly round CDO and almost a full CMG ring -- but the recent frames show slight degradation to the west. How much that's related to the mold discussed above is anyone's guess.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1050 Postby WaveBreaking » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:29 pm

The CDO just started to rotate really quickly like it's vibrating. Hurricane Jova did the same thing when it was rapidly intensifying too.


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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1051 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:31 pm

Recon is about 50 miles NW of Jamaica, so they might arrive to sample the peak
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1052 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:33 pm

WaveBreaking wrote:The CDO just started to rotate really quickly like it's vibrating. Hurricane Jova did the same thing when it was rapidly intensifying too.


https://i.imgur.com/FJGHaTM.gif

Its wild being able to see the eye actually contracting
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1053 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:34 pm

Those radar images suggest the outer eyewall is already very well formed and the moat is very narrow. Should be a smoother than average transition to the new eyewall, if not an outright meld, during the overnight hours. I wonder what intensity recon will find this at shortly.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1054 Postby USTropics » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:40 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Recon is about 50 miles NW of Jamaica, so they might arrive to sample the peak


I honestly think we're looking at a Milton scenario here, recon should get there to sample this peak. If our hurricane models are correct, we're looking at another peak in ~36 hours, HAFS-A and HAFS-B modeled the pressure to get down to 910mb. The only variable that can prevent Melissa from reaching MPI is literally an internal structure change like an EWRC. We'll have to wait and see when that occurs and how it needs to recover after, but definitely a catastrophic scenario that is going to unfold on Tuesday in Jamaica.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1055 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:51 pm

Long range radar loop (the short range one hasn't been updated in a few hours)

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1056 Postby zhukm29 » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:53 pm

Looks like a perfectly circular donut... with still another day over the warmest waters of the Atlantic.

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1057 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:54 pm

USTropics wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:Recon is about 50 miles NW of Jamaica, so they might arrive to sample the peak


I honestly think we're looking at a Milton scenario here, recon should get there to sample this peak. If our hurricane models are correct, we're looking at another peak in ~36 hours, HAFS-A and HAFS-B modeled the pressure to get down to 910mb. The only variable that can prevent Melissa from reaching MPI is literally an internal structure change like an EWRC. We'll have to wait and see when that occurs and how it needs to recover after, but definitely a catastrophic scenario that is going to unfold on Tuesday in Jamaica.


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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1058 Postby USTropics » Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:59 pm

The one thing I am seeing right now, and you have to get a really good high-res longwave IR product going, is a slight degradation in the western inner core. Temperatures have been going up in the last ~90 minutes here in this quadrant:

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1059 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:00 pm

Melissa is looking more and more impressive on radar every minute. Amazing
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#1060 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Oct 26, 2025 6:10 pm

USTropics wrote:The one thing I am seeing right now, and you have to get a really good high-res longwave IR product going, is a slight degradation in the western inner core. Temperatures have been going up in the last ~90 minutes here in this quadrant:

https://i.imgur.com/G1swuUp.gif


You can see quite a tongue of dry air intruding outside of the CDO. No idea if it's mixing in though. Might just be enough to keep it from going sub-920mb or something crazy tonight.
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