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Re: WPAC: 90W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#41 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:26 am

1900hurricane wrote:I don't think that will be our final circulation. Watch for propagation/reformation southeastwards near where the more robust convection is setting up. I think we're about to have quite the TC on our hands here, perhaps the strongest in the world for the year of 2025.

After watching the circulation more (there was an outflow boundary crossing it at the time), I am more convinced that it our player, though I still think some propagation could tug it around a little over the next 24 hours or so, perhaps in something resembling a rough counterclockwise loop around/just under 10°N south of Guam.

No changes to general expectations though. Hold on to your butts.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#42 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:35 am

32W THIRTYTWO 251104 0600 9.6N 142.9E WPAC 25 1000
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#43 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Nov 04, 2025 3:46 am

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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#44 Postby cycloneye » Tue Nov 04, 2025 4:33 am

SATELLITE ANALYSIS, INITIAL POSITION AND INTENSITY DISCUSSION:
ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE IMAGERY (MSI) DEPICTS A NEARLY
FULLY EXPOSED LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) ASSOCIATED WITH
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 32W. THE INITIAL POSITION IS PLACED WITH
MEDIUM CONFIDENCE BASED ON THE ANALYSIS OF VISIBLE SATELLITE
IMAGERY LOOPS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A 040244Z OCEANSAT-3 OSCAT PASS.
WHILE THE SATELLITE DATA HELPS IDENTIFY THE LLCC POSITION, THE
LATTER REVEALS AN ELONGATED NATURE OF THE CIRCULATION, CONTRIBUTING
TO THE UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE POSITION ASSESSMENT, AS WELL
AS INITIAL TRACK FORECAST. ADDITIONALLY, FLARING CONVECTION CAN BE
OBSERVED ALONG THE PERIPHERY OF THE CIRCULATION, AS WELL AS ALONG
THE SLIGHTLY DETACHED SOUTHERN BANDING. THE INITIAL INTENSITY OF 25
KTS IS ASSESSED WITH HIGH CONFIDENCE BASED ON THE AFOREMENTIONED
OSCAT PASS SHOWING 20-25 KT MAXIMUM WINDS TO THE NORTH OF THE LLCC, AS
WELL AS THE AGENCY DVORAK ESTIMATES LISTED BELOW. ADDITIONAL
ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS REVEALS CONDITIONS FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT,
INCLUDING WARM (30-31 C) SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SST), LOW (5-10
KTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS), MODERATE EQUATORWARD OUTFLOW, OFFSET
ONLY BY MODERATELY DRY AIR TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST.

INITIAL WIND RADII BASIS: NOT APPLICABLE (THERE ARE NO INITIAL WIND
RADII).

CURRENT STEERING MECHANISM: WESTERN EXTENSION OF A SUBTROPICAL
RIDGE (STR) CENTERED TO THE NORTHEAST

AGENCY DVORAK AND AUTOMATED FIXES:
PGTW: T1.5 - 25 KTS
RJTD: T1.0 - 25 KTS
CIMSS D-PRINT: 19 KTS AT 040600Z

FORECASTER ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT ENVIRONMENT: FAVORABLE
VWS: 5-10 KTS
SST: 30-31 CELSIUS
OUTFLOW: MODERATE EQUATORWARD

ANALYSIS CONFIDENCE:
INITIAL POSITION: MEDIUM
INITIAL INTENSITY: HIGH
INITIAL WIND RADII: NOT APPLICABLE

3. FORECAST REASONING.

SIGNIFICANT FORECAST CHANGES: THIS INITIAL PROGNOSTIC REASONING
MESSAGE ESTABLISHES THE FORECAST PHILOSOPHY.

FORECAST DISCUSSION: TD 32W IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE CONSOLIDATING
AND INTENSIFYING THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD AS IT TRACKS
TOWARD THE NORTHERN PHILIPPINES. INITIALLY, THE SYSTEM IS EXPECTED
TO REMAIN WITHIN A WEAK STEERING ENVIRONMENT, DOMINATED BY A
NORTHEASTERLY LOW-LEVEL FLOW TO THE NORTH OF THE LLCC, AS WELL AS A
WESTERN EXTENSION OF A STR CENTERED TO THE NORTHEAST. AS A RESULT,
TD 32W IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY TRACK SOUTHWESTWARD OR REMAIN
QUASI-STATIONARY. AS THE DEEP CONVECTION CONTINUES TO DEVELOP, THE
EXTENSION OF THE STR WILL RETROGRADE EASTWARD, ALLOWING THE SYSTEM
TO TURN NORTHWESTWARD AND TRANSIT ALONG THE SOUTHWESTERN PERIPHERY
OF THE RIDGE THROUGHOUT THE CURRENT FORECAST PERIOD. IN TERMS OF
INTENSITY, TD 32W IS EXPECTED TO REACH TYPHOON LEVEL MAXIMUM WINDS
WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND CONTINUE STRENGTHENING UTILIZING
FAVORABLE
ENVIRONMENT, AS SOON AS THE VORTEX BECOMES FULLY SHIELDED FROM THE
ENTRAINING DRY AIR.

MODEL DISCUSSION: NUMERICAL MODEL TRACK GUIDANCE IS IN FAIR
AGREEMENT THROUGHOUT THE CURRENT FORECAST PERIOD AND THE JTWC
OFFICIAL TRACK IS LAID WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE. INITIAL POSITION AND
TRACK UNCERTAINTY ARE A RESULT OF QUITE SIGNIFICANT DISCREPANCY
BETWEEN THE GLOBAL DETERMINISTIC MODELS. GFS PORTRAYS THE LLCC
CONSOLIDATING SOUTHEAST OF THE CURRENTLY ASSESSED POSITION, WHILE
ECMWF AND ECMWF ENSEMBLE (ECENS) ARE MORE IN LINE WITH THE
MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS. ADDITIONALLY, ECMWF IS CURRENTLY
INITIALIZING BETTER, AS CONFIRMED BY SCATTEROMETRY AND SATELLITE
IMAGERY, THEREFORE JTWC TRACK FORECAST IS LAID CLOSE TO THE
MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS, BUT LEANING CLOSER TO THE SOLUTIONS OFFERED
BY ECMWF AND ECENS. INITIAL CROSS-TRACK GUIDANCE SPREAD AT TAU 12
IS ESTIMATED AT 50 NM, EXPANDING TO 150 NM BY TAU 120. ALONG-TRACK
SPREAD HOWEVER IS AS HIGH AS 450 NM AT THE END OF THE CURRENT
FORECAST PERIOD, RESULTING IN OVERALL MEDIUM TRACK FORECAST
CONFIDENCE. INTENSITY GUIDANCE IS ALSO IN FAIR AGREEMENT, AS ALL
AVAILABLE DATA INDICATES STEADY INTENSIFICATION, HOWEVER MULTIPLE
RAPID INTENSIFICATION (RI) AIDS ARE ALSO TRIGGERING, INDICATING
UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPEED OF CONSOLIDATION FOR TD 32W.
JTWC INTENSITY FORECAST IS LAID CLOSE TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS
AND IS ASSESSED WITH MEDIUM CONFIDENCE THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST
PERIOD.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#45 Postby cycloneye » Tue Nov 04, 2025 5:07 am

Is there any chance recon flys to Fung-wong? I know there hae been missions from Japan in the past.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#46 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:25 am

I think japan may have ended their program this year, they already have been into Neoguri 3x and Halong 4x, both C4 typhoons
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#47 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Nov 04, 2025 6:38 am

Well, well
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#48 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:28 am

Currently interacting with a 355K PV Streamer

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ ... msvor1.GIF
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#49 Postby cycloneye » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:36 am

The consensus among all the models is remarkable being below 960 mbs at day 6 lead time.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#50 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:38 am

I wonder if this beast-to-be will undergo an EWRC or not.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#51 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:40 am

A lot of uncertainty in the model's forecasted track at this point.

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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#52 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:45 am

cycloneye wrote:The consensus among all the models is remarkable being below 960 mbs at day 6 lead time.


Currently in water that can support 875 mb.
Looks like it'll be that way for the rest of it's forecasted track.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#53 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:49 am

Almost 100% probability this will RI in 48hrs

https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/ai-ri/
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#54 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:50 am

Hayabusa wrote:Well, well
https://i.imgur.com/MOh90J1.png

Broooo......!!!!!!?????? :double: :shocked!:
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#55 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:53 am

This may end up being the all-time record TC.
Huge outflow channels and feeder band, a beast in the making.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv_mid
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#56 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:53 am

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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#57 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Nov 04, 2025 7:55 am

GCANE wrote:This may end up being the all-time record TC.
Huge outflow channels, a beast in the making.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/sat ... uct=wv_mid

Without recon we'll never know.
If this reaches sub-870, JTWC probably will be at around 880-890s and JMA stuck at the 910s. :lol:
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#58 Postby GCANE » Tue Nov 04, 2025 8:13 am

HAFS-A is forecasting this will be sub 900mb in 84hrs, 11/7/25 18Z
Will be very interested to see if this will undergo an EWRC by then.
Usually such a rapid RI induces an EWRC shortly after.
Of course, Melissa was an exception.
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#59 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Nov 04, 2025 8:20 am

EPS 06Z
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Re: WPAC: 32W - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#60 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Nov 04, 2025 8:21 am

Not all EWRCs are destructive, like Ragasa's in late September. Speaking of Ragasa, 32W kinda have a similar formative structure.
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