What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
Male names started being used for the EPAC in 1978, a year earlier than the Atlantic. The 1978 name list was reused four years later rather than six.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
1) Bess is one of the only, if not THE only, name to be retired twice in the same basin.
2) Hazel is the only name to be retired in both the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basins
3) Cindy’s spot on List 3 of the current Atlantic lists was supposed to be taken by Carla initially.
2) Hazel is the only name to be retired in both the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific basins
3) Cindy’s spot on List 3 of the current Atlantic lists was supposed to be taken by Carla initially.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
Iceresistance wrote:1900hurricane wrote:A TS strength or greater tropical cyclone has never crossed the Florida peninsula and then made it to Texas.
Rita 2005 almost changed that.
Not in the slightest actually, since Rita '05 neither crossed peninsular Florida nor made landfall in Texas. There have been some close calls though. Both my namesake hurricane and the 1919 Corpus Christi Hurricane passed over Dry Tortugas at the end of the keys before their devastating Texas landfalls. Perhaps the closest though is this little-known hurricane from 1934, which formed in the subtropical waters off the Carolinas, crossed Florida near Jacksonville as a TD while moving SW, then became a hurricane in the Guff of Mexico and making landfall along the central Texas coast. I believe this is the only tropical cyclone to cross peninsular Florida at any strength before a Texas landfall.

Also worth note, the-pre best track Racer's Storm of 1837 came somewhat close to doing it in reverse order, though it passed just too far north.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
This thread hasn't been replied to in a bit but I just found a really big pressure drop in a relatively short amount of time weirdly early in the season so I have to share it.
Typhoon Olga 1970 pressure drops (Note: anything greater than stated is not available because the storm weakened and then began RD and peaked in less than 24h):
-49mb/8h & 49min, 30 June
-21mb/3h, 30 June - 1 Jul
-70mb/11h & 49min, 30 June - 1 Jul
-74mb/14h & 07min, 30 June - 1 Jul
Insane for a June-July storm imo.
The storm peaked at 904mb early on the 1st of July. It's 140kt on the JTWC's ATCR but I have a feeling that this is one of those storms that are underestimated by quite a bit.
Typhoon Olga 1970 pressure drops (Note: anything greater than stated is not available because the storm weakened and then began RD and peaked in less than 24h):
-49mb/8h & 49min, 30 June
-21mb/3h, 30 June - 1 Jul
-70mb/11h & 49min, 30 June - 1 Jul
-74mb/14h & 07min, 30 June - 1 Jul
Insane for a June-July storm imo.
The storm peaked at 904mb early on the 1st of July. It's 140kt on the JTWC's ATCR but I have a feeling that this is one of those storms that are underestimated by quite a bit.
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Oh man, I remember this thread from a while back. I also recently just realized this, and it's.....intriguing, to say the least. But in all three instances in which the same name was given to a storm that hit Category 4 strength since the conventional naming scheme started, they all happened exactly 36 years apart.
Harvey 1981 & Harvey 2017, Helene 1988 & Helene 2024, and Gabrielle 1989 & Gabrielle 2025. The former two met their end on the second times they were used, so Gabrielle perhaps has a non-zero shot at becoming the first conventional Atlantic name to achieve Category 4 or higher from at least three separate seasons.
If this "36-year" thing holds up (it probably won't, lol), then we'll have to see if Claudette in 2027 becomes a Category 4 (on the heels of Claudette 1991) or, if in the event Edouard survives 2026, we get a Category 4 Edouard in 2032.
Harvey 1981 & Harvey 2017, Helene 1988 & Helene 2024, and Gabrielle 1989 & Gabrielle 2025. The former two met their end on the second times they were used, so Gabrielle perhaps has a non-zero shot at becoming the first conventional Atlantic name to achieve Category 4 or higher from at least three separate seasons.
If this "36-year" thing holds up (it probably won't, lol), then we'll have to see if Claudette in 2027 becomes a Category 4 (on the heels of Claudette 1991) or, if in the event Edouard survives 2026, we get a Category 4 Edouard in 2032.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
Teban54 wrote:Some random facts behind a few historical names that I find interesting:
- Alice: The name is probably the most well-known for the 1954-55 hurricane, and the only Atlantic hurricane to exist in the span of two years (Zeta 2005 was only a tropical storm). The December Alice was given the A name because operationally it was thought to have formed in January 1955, but post-season analysis found it formed in December 1954. But the June 1954 Alice, with a Cat 2 landfall near the US-Mexico border, is also nothing to sneeze at!
- Carol: The 1954 Carol was among the first retired names in the Atlantic, as the public found it confusing when Carol 1954 approached the same area as Carol 1953. But at that time, names were supposed to be retired for 10 years only, so Carol entered the naming list again in 1965 to replace Carla 1961. Carol was supposed to be on the 1969 list too, but in spring 1969 they decided to retire all names permanently. Camille was used instead, named after John Hope's daughter. And we all know what happened.
- Edna: Also among the same batch of retired names after 1954 like Carol (it was a brutal year for the Northeast). But it appeared on the naming list again in 1972, even after the 1969 decision to keep names retired permanently. Fortunately, the 1972 season only had 4 named storms, so Edna wasn't even used!
Alice dumped over 2 feet of rain in a drought ravaged Texas.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
1900hurricane wrote:Iceresistance wrote:1900hurricane wrote:A TS strength or greater tropical cyclone has never crossed the Florida peninsula and then made it to Texas.
Rita 2005 almost changed that.
Not in the slightest actually, since Rita '05 neither crossed peninsular Florida nor made landfall in Texas. There have been some close calls though. Both my namesake hurricane and the 1919 Corpus Christi Hurricane passed over Dry Tortugas at the end of the keys before their devastating Texas landfalls. Perhaps the closest though is this little-known hurricane from 1934, which formed in the subtropical waters off the Carolinas, crossed Florida near Jacksonville as a TD while moving SW, then became a hurricane in the Guff of Mexico and making landfall along the central Texas coast. I believe this is the only tropical cyclone to cross peninsular Florida at any strength before a Texas landfall.
https://i.imgur.com/NN0vJop.png
Also worth note, the-pre best track Racer's Storm of 1837 came somewhat close to doing it in reverse order, though it passed just too far north.
The 1934 Hurricane formed off the Carolinas and went southwest and made landfall on Texas. The storm formed along a stationary frontal boundary and help move it towards Texas.
I think the 1837 Racer's Storm was likely a Category 5 hurricane over the Caribbean.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
It's possible to have two distinct storms named Ana in the Central Pacific.
To do this, you need:
Alternatively, it's much easier to have two Ana's in the Pacific overall, one in the EPAC and one in the CPAC. This only needs an ATL-EPAC crossover.
To do this, you need:
- The first Atlantic storm in a List 1 year (2027, 2033, ...) forms and is named Ana. It later crosses over into the Eastern Pacific, then Central Pacific.
- At the same time, another storm forms in the CPAC proper. The next name on the CPAC list, which cycles start-to-end through its 4 lists, is Ana.
Alternatively, it's much easier to have two Ana's in the Pacific overall, one in the EPAC and one in the CPAC. This only needs an ATL-EPAC crossover.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
Does every ultra-busy (by storm count) Atlantic hurricane season have a vendetta against Louisiana? I am convinced 2005 with its 2 major hurricane landfalls in Louisiana was Mother Nature playing a cruel prank against the state; and that was coincidentally repeated with 2020 with Laura and Zeta.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
The very first post in this thread:
This has now been broken by 2024 (Beryl, Milton) and 2025 (Erin, Humberto, Melissa).
Category5Kaiju wrote:I also find it interesting how all 5 Atlantic seasons (1961 onward) that featured multiple Cat 5 hurricanes had those hurricanes named after the same gender (Esther/Hattie, Emily/Katrina/Rita/Wilma, Dean/Felix, Irma/Maria, and Dorian/Lorenzo)
This has now been broken by 2024 (Beryl, Milton) and 2025 (Erin, Humberto, Melissa).
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Team Ghost wrote:Does every ultra-busy (by storm count) Atlantic hurricane season have a vendetta against Louisiana? I am convinced 2005 with its 2 major hurricane landfalls in Louisiana was Mother Nature playing a cruel prank against the state; and that was coincidentally repeated with 2020 with Laura and Zeta.
2 seasons is honestly not a big sample size by any means, but I'd say that those seasons also featured copious amounts of Gulf activity. Generally, steering patterns did favor some major impact into Louisiana. 2021 with its 21 NSs also featured a monster hurricane hit Louisiana (Ida), although 2023 and 1933 with their 20 NSs didn't.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
Category5Kaiju wrote:Team Ghost wrote:Does every ultra-busy (by storm count) Atlantic hurricane season have a vendetta against Louisiana? I am convinced 2005 with its 2 major hurricane landfalls in Louisiana was Mother Nature playing a cruel prank against the state; and that was coincidentally repeated with 2020 with Laura and Zeta.
2 seasons is honestly not a big sample size by any means, but I'd say that those seasons also featured copious amounts of Gulf activity. Generally, steering patterns did favor some major impact into Louisiana. 2021 with its 21 NSs also featured a monster hurricane hit Louisiana (Ida), although 2023 and 1933 with their 20 NSs didn't.
1886 was active and cruel to Texas.
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Ptarmigan wrote:Category5Kaiju wrote:Team Ghost wrote:Does every ultra-busy (by storm count) Atlantic hurricane season have a vendetta against Louisiana? I am convinced 2005 with its 2 major hurricane landfalls in Louisiana was Mother Nature playing a cruel prank against the state; and that was coincidentally repeated with 2020 with Laura and Zeta.
2 seasons is honestly not a big sample size by any means, but I'd say that those seasons also featured copious amounts of Gulf activity. Generally, steering patterns did favor some major impact into Louisiana. 2021 with its 21 NSs also featured a monster hurricane hit Louisiana (Ida), although 2023 and 1933 with their 20 NSs didn't.
1886 was active and cruel to Texas.
139 years later, the Indianola hurricane that year is still the strongest most intense hurricane to ever strike Texas.
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Re: What's a relatively obscure tropical cyclone trivia fact that interests you?
I still find it really bizarre that both Hurricane Katrina and Hurricane Ida made landfall in Louisiana on August 29th.
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