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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#821 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 13, 2025 4:59 pm

Golfisnoteasy75 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:It is 300 hours, just for novelty this is a 500mb pattern you look for when calling for warmth. All the troughs/ridges are complete opposite of what they need to be. Not saying 300hr map will pan out that way, we've seen 500mb maps for cold, just educational the other way as well.

https://i.imgur.com/GCg4K64.png

This may be a stupid question. Do we have a ways to go to perhaps get out of this pattern? Like you said, thankfully it's still mid December


We probably need to watch Siberia for something that causes a Pacific Jet extension.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#822 Postby TomballEd » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:07 pm

Ntxw wrote:It is 300 hours, just for novelty this is a 500mb pattern you look for when calling for warmth. All the troughs/ridges are complete opposite of what they need to be. Not saying 300hr map will pan out that way, we've seen 500mb maps for cold, just educational the other way as well.

https://i.imgur.com/GCg4K64.png


I posted earlier this morning the ensemble pattern at 15 days just needs to move that ridge a bit into Alaska and the trough a little bit to the East and then air forecast by the Euro to be about 20F below normal in the Yukon when the Yukon is normally already super cold is enough to start the really cold air heading towards Texas. Once moving, it flows to the Gulf on density alone while mid level flow is still off the Pacific. I also mentioned sneaky cold. If Houston flirts with a freeze it means dewpoints below freezing, probably not enough below winter precip is a threat down here but Dallas with dewpoints close to 20F, it can happen. I remember, both Bedford (DFW area) and Austin, days near 50F followed a day later by snow or ice without an airmass change. Clouds and evaporative cooling works miracles. Just missing the moisture.

I noted ensemble temps suggested a front is moving around somewhere near the Red River, clear air afternoon temps may seem too warm for a white/icy Christmas week miracle but dewpoints with even the backwash of an Arctic airmass hitting further E with a subtle, not yet detectable disturbance, could produce winter precip not too far N of the front. One thing I'm thinking now, low res ops and ensembles over 10 days out, besides maybe not seeing a good disturbance might also not get the shallow cold air far enough south. We're doing Christmas here but my mind isn't blown by a DFW Christmas miracle now that I think about it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#823 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:56 pm

GFS wants to shift the PNA to more of a neutral to + Look
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#824 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:58 pm

I’m in SELA and yeah, another warm Christmas is not exactly exciting but I will just keep reminding myself that we had January 2025 and 8 inches of snow IMBY.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#825 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:24 pm

On this day in 2020 we had a surprise 5 inches

And it's barely snowed a flake in December since :lol: :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#826 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:43 pm

Just took some christmas pictures outside on a bridge with the family, and i had a large spider fall on my head, normally the humidity outside is already scary enough, but that was the icing on the cake for me folks hahaha
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#827 Postby txtwister78 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:44 pm

Almost hit 80 today. Brief cool down tomorrow through Tuesday and then the "torchmas" begins

80's now showing up late next week and beyond into Christmas Day. Texas barbecue pits running in December??? Maybe so for some houses. Getting my brisket ready.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Enjoy the cool weather while it last.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#828 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 6:54 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Just took some christmas pictures outside on a bridge with the family, and i had a large spider fall on my head, normally the humidity outside is already scary enough, but that was the icing on the cake for me folks hahaha
We ain't going to torch
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#829 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 13, 2025 9:12 pm

A week or more potentially of 65 with a couple 70s thrown in is definitely a torch here. The record high for Christmas is 74. Yeah locally it's not I guess completely terrible on paper but the problem is how long it lasts and that we usually run cooler than everyone else up here. It was over 80 in the Panhandle the other day for one day(set records for December) while we were only 67. So we've already seen a bit of what's coming

There will definitely be places hitting the 80s for Christmas week. It may not be in DFW but yeah. I see mid to upper 70s for DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#830 Postby CaptinCrunch » Sat Dec 13, 2025 10:49 pm

It's windy and temp is dropping, FTW looking at a low of 27 with wind chills in the upper teens by morning :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#831 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:34 pm

If you want to believe it silver lining, at least the quiet trend from the GFS and some ensemble members is that the 'torch' may be broken up by a couple of cold fronts, at least for the northern tier of the state into Oklahoma. At least keeps the runaway unhinged warmth at bay.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#832 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:41 pm

Ntxw GFS has a weaker and more progressive se ridge on this run, that would be nice to see another models join this idea
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#833 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:50 pm

Ntxw wrote:If you want to believe it silver lining, at least the quiet trend from the GFS and some ensemble members is that the 'torch' may be broken up by a couple of cold fronts, at least for the northern tier of the state into Oklahoma. At least keeps the runaway unhinged warmth at bay.


Yeah maybe we're backing off a bit up here. I mean we still got a long way to go but I'm not seeing any record highs

GFS is 35 degrees colder in some of Kansas on Christmas than just 3 runs ago
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#834 Postby Stratton23 » Sat Dec 13, 2025 11:56 pm

I like what im seeing from the GFS in terms of if you want potentially a better pattern for rain across the state, PNA flips to positive and rebuilds off the western US, thats a better position for central and eastern troughing to take over, also a better chance that a new - EPO domain becames established, some encouraging signs , but least see if the AIFS and euro start making any noteworthy changes as well
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#835 Postby TomballEd » Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:04 am

I thought maybe the pre-frontal here with weak N winds looking at DFW's winds a while ago noticing the dewpoints weren't falling much but winds have gone very light SW. Looks like Louisiana is the winner so far. TV station models (one of the so called models looks like the Euro but is called something like 'Future Cast' with a low res global and a higher res meso. Meso says front starts stirring up storms just as it reaches the coast. Galveston needs the rain as well but a Nina-ish pattern might be locking in. For hard freeze/ERCOT testing freezes a cold ENSO sometimes gets that done but I don't really want a dead looking palm tree until April or May and the mid-teens must be darn close to killing my big one and has killed even my cold tolerant kumquat-mandarin citrus tree and the transplanted seedlings of the big one. Everyone wants snow, I'm fine with upper 20s and an airmass dry enough to support pre-frozen precip of one form or the other.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#836 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:05 am

Euro also isnt keeping the SE ridge of death permanently locked in for weeks lol, of course this all means nothing if the ensembles dont make any changes, but i do think there were some positive changes in the overnight global mode guidance, mainly for potentially better chances at rain but also a better blocking pattern in the pacific ( - EPO ), beyond christmas
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#837 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:10 am

Indianapolis 2nd most snow to date so far

What a start up there

But you can definitely see some subtle changes on the GFS. I still would expect a warm Christmas but we'll see
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#838 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:05 am

Brent wrote:Indianapolis 2nd most snow to date so far

What a start up there

But you can definitely see some subtle changes on the GFS. I still would expect a warm Christmas but we'll see


Yeah, pretty sure the warm Christmas is a lock at this point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#839 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:17 am

Lol CFS at the end of december, but it is the CFS afterall, foesnt make it any less pretty to look at that run though!
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Re: Texas Winter 2025-2026

#840 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 14, 2025 5:57 am

The wind chill is currently below zero in Oklahoma :eek: :double: :spam: :spam:

Now back to your regularly scheduled torch. Hope Santa is packing his shorts. Christmas Eve is back near 70 here as of now
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